Caitlin K: 0:55

It's Tuesday. Yeah, it is. Hey everyone. We are so glad you're here. I'm actually mostly just glad that I'm getting to see and talk to Jenny because we haven't been able to get together and record for a little while. So this is fun for me, and I'm looking forward to what we're gonna talk about. Which is Jenny, take it away. What are we talking about today?

Jenny GK: 1:16

Things that we are not gonna be posting on social media during the holiday season.

Caitlin K: 1:21

Yes, I love it. I love that idea.

Jenny GK: 1:26

So stick around because coming right up.

Caitlin K: 1:28

Mm-hmm.

Jenny GK: 1:29

Okay. Mm-hmm. She's great. From her head to her mistletoes, it's Caitlin.

Caitlin K: 1:39

Yes. That's adorable. Oh, I love that. Okay. Well, you are just my favorite magnificent middle school marching band. Yay.

Jenny GK: 1:56

That's good. That's good. Thanks. That's awesome. I've been in a middle school marching band. Have you? I have indeed. Yeah, I think I knew that. Uh Pacific Junior High. Go Vikings. Oh, nice. Which then became Pacific Middle School. With a very unfortunate acronym.

Caitlin K: 2:19

Um, I went to and taught at Prairie Middle School, which also has, and when we were in sixth grade, the chunks of class time were called periods. Oh, of course they were. The joke was welcome to PMS. Did you enjoy your first period? And imagine like all these 11 and 12-year-old boys running around saying that. Like they just thought they were so funny. So funny at creative idiots. And guests who never thought of that joke, literally no one, because everyone knows that joke. Okay, thank you. Anyway, let's get into our episode for today. Yay.

Jenny GK: 3:01

So this was spurred on by an article from Reader's Digest, but um, I also read some things on All Women Talk as well as on social stamina and the healthy. Okay. And all of the links will be available to you as the listener. Love it. But um there are some things that just should not show up in your social media feed this time of year. Yes. So um we'll talk about what different things those are and why they are tacky. Here for it. Right. Okay. All right. So the first one obviously is gifts. Both the ones that you didn't like as well as bragging about all the ones you got. Okay, if you didn't like a gift, this is the season to exercise gratitude. Don't roll your eyes or complain when you didn't get what you're want. You're a grown-up. Thank you. I can see you really thought about this gift.

Caitlin K: 4:06

Have you seen those videos of the little kids who have been taught to be gracious for like everything? And so when they open their present and it's like an old banana, they're like, thank you so much. And they're they're like side-eyeing, like they're like, it's so nice in me. Thank you. And it's so sweet. And you're right, the parents are like, I'm so proud of you for being gracious, but they're dying of laughter. And it's oh, because they wrapped this on purpose to make their kid. To make their kid. Yeah. It's really funny.

Jenny GK: 4:39

Don't worry, the Nintendo Switch is the next gift you're gonna open. Right, right. First the banana. Right. Okay. So obviously, if you didn't like a gift, you don't complain about it on the internet. Um, but also don't brag about all the things that you got or gave. That's really, really tacky. When you were eight, it was cool to call your friends after Christmas morning or get together the next day and share all the toys that you got and brag about Barbie's Dream House. But as an adult, sharing extravagance is also privilege. And sharing that with the world is not a flattering look. Agree. People who follow you might not be as fortunate as you are, and the holidays are just a reminder of that. I would agree with that. I mean, it tells the criminals just what to steal.

Caitlin K: 5:31

Do you sound like my mother, where it's like, okay, now what we are parking our car at this parking lot, so we're gonna hide all the things in different parts of the car so that nobody's looking in the car to bust your window open and steal the bags out. Which is crazy.

Jenny GK: 5:44

You put all the stuff in your trunk and then you move the car. Even if you're gonna go back into the move. You move the car. So they see you put all the stuff in your trunk, then you get in the car and you just park.

Caitlin K: 5:56

You drive off. Yeah, it looks like you're driving away. I like that one. Also, um, just a side note when you get in your car, this is especially for people who dawdle when they get in the car. Lock the door as soon as you sit down in the car. Just lock the door. Okay, thank you. Okay, that's my TED talk.

Jenny GK: 6:12

All right. So the next one. And like, come on, gifts, that's like major duh. Like everyone knows you should not do that. Um, and trying to get around it by saying, I'm so grateful that so and so gave me this, it's that's passive-aggressive, that's like humble brag.

Caitlin K: 6:31

Yeah, it is.

Jenny GK: 6:32

And trying to say that you're grateful and like, oh, I'm so happy that we had the ability to give our kid the newest iPhone. No, you're telling people you got your kid the newest iPhone. We all see through it.

Caitlin K: 6:43

Right. I'd rather see like a I'm so grateful and a picture of your kids. Right. Like that to me is cuter and better and less tacky.

Jenny GK: 6:52

Let your kids brag about their toys.

Caitlin K: 6:54

Right. Yeah, that's fine.

Jenny GK: 6:55

All right, the next one is another no-brainer, family drama. Ew, you're only adding fuel to the fire here, people. Friends and family members can feel like they have to pick sides. Nothing's really private once it's online. You know you cannot trust Aunt Myrtle when she says, Oh, it's just between us. No, it's not. No, it's not.

Caitlin K: 7:18

No, it's not.

Jenny GK: 7:19

No, it's not.

Caitlin K: 7:20

No.

Jenny GK: 7:21

Do not post about family drama on the internet during the holiday season or any time during the year.

Caitlin K: 7:26

Yeah. And and this is not to say, like, you can't reach out and ask for assistance from your social media friends and family, but like telling, like, just don't air the dirty laundry, right? Like, you can say, like, I'm struggling with my family right now. Is there anyone who can really? I'd love to have a chat or something. Yeah. But like, don't like Aunt Myrtle, everything that she just told you, let's keep that off the phone. Let's just, yeah, let's just keep that off the interwebs. Oh, there we go. Oh man.

Jenny GK: 7:57

Again, another ew gross political viewpoints. Uh-oh. Okay, now, here's the thing. I know that in person, it can be hard to change the topic if someone brings up politics at a holiday gathering. And there's a lot of times where you want to tell someone, like, no, actually, that's totally disrespectful, and I don't agree with you at all. There, there's nothing wrong with that.

Caitlin K: 8:18

Right.

Jenny GK: 8:19

However, you get to control what you post and what conversations you start.

Caitlin K: 8:26

This is true.

Jenny GK: 8:27

I always like to think about social media as if I took everyone I know and put them in a room and started screaming at them. What do I want to scream? It might be, oh my gosh, people are dying. This is terrible. Here is a way that you can do something about it.

Caitlin K: 8:46

Sure. That's fair.

Jenny GK: 8:47

But that is totally different than just getting on social media and talking about your political viewpoints during a season where you're gonna be running into people and they are gonna be upset with you. Yeah. Oof. Even if you're on the quote unquote popular side or the right side of history, now's not the time.

Caitlin K: 9:10

Should you feel an urge to respond to something? Again, I tend to err on the side of I'm not gonna talk about this right now because I personally don't want to invite the drama that comes with it into my life. I'm you know I'm very politically outspoken. I I I just feel like there's a time and place. Initiating is very different, right? And I would agree with that. And I'll now, this is not to say like if you are, you know, an organizer for an event or something. Oh my god, we don't mean that. But like, but this is just like if you're spouting off, you know, a hot take about something and it's not like in your job description to do that, dial it down or some, you know, something. Just keep just keep your and and anything that you know is going to really mess up your holiday season, just please think twice before putting it out there.

Jenny GK: 9:58

I also learned a little bit of science about this. Oh, I only learned it this week, but it makes sense once you think about it. Okay. Even when you engage with a post to say that the person is wrong, you have now boosted their information in the algorithm. So even if you are negating something that someone put up, you are actually helping them get their message out to more people.

Caitlin K: 10:23

So I do work in marketing and I do work a lot in social media, and I will tell you this is absolutely true. Every single platform prioritizes engagement, is what we call that. And and typically, like I'm thinking of in particular like LinkedIn and TikTok, a like is worth a very small amount of I don't know, if you want to think of it like a point system, right, engagement points, but an a comment is worth a very significant amount of engagement points. So when you don't engage with a post, you are allowing the algorithm to bury it. So let me say that again. If you don't engage, the algorithm will decide that the post is not worth anyone's time and therefore it won't get seen by people. So if it's something that's completely and utterly stupid and offends you, do everything in your power to scroll past it. Right? Because when you engage, you attract attention to it. So stop it. Just don't do that. And and that also means that if you see a CK and GK post on the interwebs, you need to go engage and comment and like it right now. But in terms of the stuff that makes you angry on the internet, just ignore it because you will let that post die if you do that or help it die.

Jenny GK: 11:48

It's hard, but it's hard, it's really hard. It could be a gift to yourself during the holidays. Yeah.

Caitlin K: 11:55

Just not engaging, just let it go.

Jenny GK: 11:59

The next one, I am sad that I'm even saying this out loud. It was in the Reader's Digest article, so I am bringing it forward. But this one is negative remarks about other faiths. Like, why do I have to say this out loud? Right. The f continue. Go ahead. Okay, so this, like, obviously, don't say awful things about someone else's religion on the internet.

Caitlin K: 12:24

Right.

Jenny GK: 12:25

For everyone to read. Right. It reflects poorly on you, I promise. Um, secondly, this also includes correcting minor mistakes. If someone says happy Hanukkah to you, uh, you can just say thank you. You don't have to say, um, no, I'm sorry, I celebrate Christmas. And maybe, maybe the person who's saying happy Hanukkah to you celebrates Hanukkah and you can respond with in kind and say, Oh, happy Hanukkah to you. Like there's like 20-something holidays that all occur during this holiday season. Um, we're actually gonna cover them on next week's episode. Yes. Just make sure that everyone feels safe and joyful during a time of celebration.

Caitlin K: 13:08

Yeah, I just um I can't like I can't wrap my head around the whole like we say Merry Christmas, or I can't say Christmas. It's like yes, you can. You just can't crap all over everyone else's holiday. Like you can totally say Merry Christmas to people, or you can just say happy holidays, and it's fine, or you could say happy holidays, like it just be kind about it and and stop being a grump about well, we can't, we don't tell me, we don't like just shut up and just be happy about it. It's fine. This is I'm gonna get mad. Can you hear it? I'm already I know enough about it.

Jenny GK: 13:49

I didn't even want to put this in there because I felt like it was such common knowledge, but it's not though. This is why we have to say it. This is the same thing. Right, right, right, right, right. Okay, so um the next one is unprofessional or undesirable behavior. Let them shade on it. Yes, do not put pictures of yourself drunk on the internet. Do not complain about your work schedule or your boss because I promise you there is someone out there who wants your gig and could go to great lengths to try and get it. Well, my stuff is private. No, it's not.

Caitlin K: 14:25

No, it's not. Private.

Jenny GK: 14:28

Only if you don't have any followers.

Caitlin K: 14:30

Right. Or any social at all. It's like, but then you aren't posting the pictures. I'm just thinking of like when I was in college, and like, you know, you'd have your per your tiny purse, but then you had to have 15 things in your hand because nothing else fit in your purse, and you had your digital camera and your flip phone, and and then the all the digital camera pictures, you had like red eyes, so every photo you just looked drunken, and then you'd put them on the internet, and people were like, oh my god, it was so much fun. It's like I would be completely mortified if any pictures like that were posted of me right now. No, if I even appear drunk and I'm not, if my eyes are red from the flash, I'm like, get that out of here. Like, just don't put yourself in a position where you look unprofessional right now. Like, yes, everyone's celebrating. Yes, there are holiday parties left and right. I get that. But I don't know, just don't don't use a filter.

Jenny GK: 15:27

I read one of these posts that was like how to appear as old money. And one of them was never get photographed with a drink in your hand unless you're making a toast.

Caitlin K: 15:36

Ooh, that's a good idea.

Jenny GK: 15:38

Yeah, they were like always put your drink down when you're about to get your picture taken.

Caitlin K: 15:41

I feel like that's probably something that teachers are doing. You know what I mean? It's like I don't ever want to have the appearance of that, so they put it down. You know what I mean? Yeah. I've that's an interesting thing, but I'm I'm just thinking about like just when I say use a filter, I don't mean like use a filter on your face like Valencia. I'm talking about like filter your brain out and don't post the stupid stuff. Right.

Jenny GK: 16:05

You know what I mean? Anyway, so this also applies to if you're a business. If you're posting on behalf of your business, your contact uh content always needs to lead back to your brand. Yep. So don't focus so much on being cookie cutter perfect, focus on being authentic. So is your company having a Christmas party? Put pictures up. Are people acting a fool at that Christmas party? Don't put pictures up.

Caitlin K: 16:36

Yeah. Uh and I have a again, I work in marketing now and I have a very real um opinion about this. And someone's gonna be like, but authentic is me being drunk. And it's like, no, no, it's not. Authentic is you being real and relatable. If you're real and relatable is drunk, don't post that. Like, like just don't. You know what I mean? Just don't. And and I'm saying this as someone who like understands that there are people who do have issues with alcohol and substance abuse, you know, and I just want to just be mindful of like uh respecting that as well. At the same time, if that's not you and you don't normally post those pictures, now is not the time to start doing it because it's the holidays and you want to show everyone how you've celebrated. Just leave it alone, right? Ugh.

Jenny GK: 17:31

Okay, so the next one comes only from All Women Talk. A lot of these were like a blend of multiple sites, kind of said all the same things. I thought this was very intriguing. Okay, they recommend to be very careful about posting regarding invitations, both invitations to events you're hosting and inviting people to, as well as invitations to events that you're being invited to and attending.

Caitlin K: 17:58

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Jenny GK: 17:59

If you are inviting people to an event via social media, you want to make sure that the event is private. You could really end up with hurt feelings if you create an event and people are not invited, but they know that they've been left out. I have thoughts. Yes. Okay. The other one, and this comes from my experience.

Caitlin K: 18:22

Ah, yes. I know where this is going. I can feel it.

Jenny GK: 18:27

Let me start by saying this mom is amazing and is my very best friend at kits school. Okay. Because of what I did to start a relationship. Ready for it. Okay. Let's hear it. Her sons were having a birthday party. We RSVP'd, yes. Then the week before the party, the head of school emailed everyone and said, Hey, there's been COVID in our school. And so I responded to the party invite and wrote, Hey, in light of the news at school, we're actually not going to be able to come. We have a new niece that we want to meet, and we don't want to expose Kit any further than he's already been. This message was not private. Oops. I messaged 180 different people who were invited to this party. I mean, not 180, but it was a lot.

Caitlin K: 19:27

Oh my god. No.

Jenny GK: 19:28

But it was every kid at the school, plus all their friends outside of school. I looked like an idiot. And of course, people are messaging her left and right, like, what's going on at school? What's going on? Why would my kid not want to go to this party? So then, you know, I frantically text her and tell her the whole thing and say, I meant this to be private. I'm so sorry. And she was like, No, it's cool. Um, if it was my kid, I wouldn't come either. Which she's awesome.

Caitlin K: 19:53

Was the beginning of a beautiful friendship. But yeah, she's amazing. Hang on to that mom friend.

Jenny GK: 19:58

She's the one also who said that when she sees parents being too great, she tries to trip them. And I was like, Yes. I said, Oh yeah, just sneak a snicker bar in their kids' lunch. Oh, you packed him a full-size candy bar? He's only three.

Caitlin K: 20:12

That has peanuts in it. We are not. Oh my gosh, I need to meet this person. She sounds amazing. Okay. She's good. She's good.

Jenny GK: 20:20

But yes, just make sure that when you are sending a message to a host that it's private. Mm-hmm. Yeah. When in doubt, take it offline. Oh god. Okay, so related to invitations are excuses or rather false alibis.

Caitlin K: 20:40

You mean Jomo? The joy of missing out? Ah, yes. Yes.

Jenny GK: 20:46

Okay. So you decline an invitation because you're feeling unwell. And then you post pictures of you at the Better Offers event. Mm-mm. Not cool. Mm-hmm. You tell your family, I'm so sorry. We have a work engagement that night. And then there's pictures of you at the Trail of Lights. Ooh, that's a bad idea. Sorry, Aunt Myrtle.

Caitlin K: 21:12

I had to work at Trail of Lights. Right. Right. That hot beverage you see with my eyes all bloodshot. Like, we were we were passing them out.

Jenny GK: 21:24

So just be aware of when you are making an excuse or declining an invitation, that whatever you post aligns with the excuse or uh false alibi that you made for yourself.

Caitlin K: 21:39

If you told someone like, I can't go because I'm going to the trail of lights that night, that's completely different than I just don't want to go. So do you want to go to the trail of lights? You know what I mean? Like they're do they're very different things, and just be mindful of how that would feel if that happened to you. Yes. Okay.

Jenny GK: 21:57

And then the last one, and this most of these are year-round, right? It's just kind of common sense. But this one is very, very important. Okay. Do not post photos of other people or of other people's children without their permission. And this is very important for businesses.

Caitlin K: 22:22

Okay.

Jenny GK: 22:24

You could lose your whole business over a lawsuit of posting a kid without their uh their family's permission. Yep. Okay. So don't share stories that aren't yours to tell unless you uh change the names to protect the innocent. Um there is a law called the children children's online privacy protection act of 1998. And there are rules about what pictures you're allowed to take and what pictures you're allowed to share. When in doubt, leave it out. If you don't have someone's permission to post that picture, just don't.

Caitlin K: 23:04

Yeah.

Jenny GK: 23:06

Um also consent laws can vary by state. There are some states where if you just put the kid's name in writing, you could be sued. Wow. So just ask the families. Yeah. Just ask your friend, like, hey, this picture is so cute. I'm gonna post it and tag you. Okay. Uh no, my face looks really fat.

Caitlin K: 23:28

Take it again. You can't you can still post the picture, but get a sticker and like a little online digital sticker and put it over the kid's face. Like that's totally fine to do. Like I I s you know, like just I don't like posting pictures of other like even my son's little friends, like I just don't I won't put them online. Those are for me and those are for him for later. I don't like to put them up on the internet, but that's that's everyone else's, you know, that's up to you and your discretion and what you want to do, but other people's kids are off limits. I yeah. When I am doing uh marketing outreach for various companies, if one of the customers sends a message to the customer care team and says, Hey, I really loved this product, I have to go in and ask for permission to publish just the quote. Wow. Like I have to go in and say, like, do we have permission to share this? Because every because the the first thing that happens when that happens is a is a line from the powers that be there, like, post this online. And I'm like, I can't just post it online because I need to get permission to do that. I can I can post it online anonymously, but then if the person knows that I took their email and I just published it and I didn't put a name to it, I can get in trouble for that too. So I would rather get permission. It's the same thing. Like, you can't just steal information and put it out there, but other people's kids can get you in trouble on your personal Instagram that you think is private, so don't do it.

Jenny GK: 25:08

Alright. So here are the things that we are not posting this holiday season. They do not belong on your seasonal social. Ready? Complaints or celebrations about gifts. Don't brag about what you got or gave, and don't say that you didn't like something.

Caitlin K: 25:28

Okay.

Jenny GK: 25:28

Family drama.

Caitlin K: 25:30

Okay.

Jenny GK: 25:31

Save your drama for your mama. Political viewpoints. We're not talking about uh standing up for what's right. We are talking about actually engaging in a conversation or initiating a conversation about a heated topic. Negative remarks about other faiths or their holidays.

Caitlin K: 25:52

Good yeah, just move.

Jenny GK: 25:54

Including correcting someone for wishing you a happy holiday that your family does not celebrate. Unprofessional or undesirable behavior. Is the lampshade on your head? Then the picture stays on your phone. Information about invitations, whether you are inviting people, keep that private. Or you've been invited, keep that private. And don't blast the entire party with a message about your kid getting COVID. False alibis and excuses. Remember that if you told someone that you're sick in bed, you should not have a picture of you celebrating New Year's Eve at the same time. And finally, photographs of other people, or more importantly, other people's children.

Caitlin K: 26:41

I love it. Eight topics that don't belong on your social. Beautiful.

Jenny GK: 26:47

Let us take a short break. We're back. Yeah, we're I was just uh posting some stuff on social media. Um, I had a picture of my entire class opening the iPhones that I gave all of them. So I wanted to put it up there.

Caitlin K: 27:01

So did you make sure you covered every single face with a sticker?

Jenny GK: 27:05

Oh no, I actually put their name, address, and blood type underneath the photo.

Caitlin K: 27:11

Hashtag. I would recommend that. Yeah. Yes. Oh goodness. All right. Well, let's do the fun stuff since I'm cracking up over this ridiculous fake post that you just put up. Okay.

Jenny GK: 27:28

So let us start with what we are obsessed with. Do it. We are in the 40 days of Jenny's 40th. So my mom has always told me that I am the queen of extending my birthday.

Caitlin K: 27:42

You are. You really are.

Jenny GK: 27:44

I love a birthday season.

Caitlin K: 27:47

And a birthday, a birthday week, a birthday month, a birthday season. We have increased it already. Holy smokes. I love a birthday season. Y'all.

Jenny GK: 28:02

So join me, listeners, in counting down the 40 days until I turn 40. Every day I am doing something different for myself. I love that. I am trying not to be completely obnoxious about it, but I am indeed posting about it every single day. I love it. Um, and so some days it's dressing up in a fun little outfit. Um, some days it's rolling the windows down and listening to my music as loud as I can. Some days it is eating junk food in front of the TV. But it's 40 days of self-care. Something different every day, something fun to celebrate myself.

Caitlin K: 28:42

I love that. What a fun idea. Oh my goodness. Birthday season here. Birthday season. Okay, well, speaking of self-care, um, every other week my boss does uh what we call Zen time, and it's like 15 minutes on Friday, and you just we sometimes we'll do a meditation where everyone turns off their cameras and their microphones, and we just all watch a video that's like a meditative video. Sometimes they're stretch videos, sometimes they're um like we've tried tapping before, like that meditative tapping method. I really liked that one. Oh, you liked that. I felt really good afterward, yeah.

Jenny GK: 29:23

I think a lot of people feel really good after being tapped.

Caitlin K: 29:28

Oh I'm gonna pretend that you were talking about like a keg, okay? Okay, so um anyway. We've been doing these five minute stretch, sorry, we've been doing these five minute stretch videos. And uh I've been saving the videos to like a stretch video playlist, but it's really helpful. Like in the middle of the day when I'm completely losing my mind, and I have I do like Pomodoro timer where 25 minutes on, five minutes off sort of thing. And um, every four 25-minute chunks, I get a 15-minute break, or I'll take lunch, or we know whatever it is. But in the long break, I try and squeeze in at least one five-minute stretch video per day. Now, I haven't been very successful this week or last week, or the week before, but I did it today. I did it today. We had a zen today, and I um like had kept I kept going for a little bit longer and then I did another one. But these five minute stretch videos are so helpful. It's amazing what five minutes can do if your back is sore or your shoulders are bothering you, or whatever. It I would highly recommend them. Just go on to YouTube and search.

Jenny GK: 30:55

Five minutes seems like a long time to stretch. Like normally, if I stand up and stretch, it takes like what 12 seconds. Right.

Caitlin K: 31:02

Or like your morning stretch when you yeah, when you get up in the morning and you're like still having a big door.

Jenny GK: 31:11

But it is a longer time stretching and focusing on movement than I would normally do.

Caitlin K: 31:16

Yeah, it's I'm really into it and I'm gonna try and build it into my schedule a little bit more. Like actually plan for that break to happen and then put the link in the calendar appointment for myself so that I just have it there and I don't have an excuse.

Jenny GK: 31:31

Okay. So speaking of time, my gem of the week has to do with time.

Caitlin K: 31:39

Okay.

Jenny GK: 31:41

My mom uh recently attended a baptism. Okay. And it was part of a traditional Sunday worship service. It was not a separate event. Oh okay. Um, this is important because they added it to the traditional regular service. Yes. They did not subtract anything from the service, they did not hold it at the beginning of the service, they did not hold it at the end of the service, it was just another element added to an already 90-minute service. Yeah. Um, as my mom is recapping the event, she describes to me the event program, the paper, the booklet they give you with the rundown of what's going to happen. She said, I am pouring through this program that's the size of a cheesecake factory menu.

Caitlin K: 32:49

It's 46 pages. Oh gosh. The desserts are, you know, the last half. Oh man, that's horrible. Died. I died.

Jenny GK: 32:59

I thought that was so funny. Like, what a funny way to describe a church service, especially since my mom is very, very active in her own church.

Caitlin K: 33:10

Yeah. Oh man. I was gonna say it sounds kind of like a Catholic wedding service. Yeah. Like they're so long and they don't they do the full service inside the wedding. Yeah, it's like, man, this is like, and I remember being a kid and sitting in Catholic Mass, and we would we would leave immediately after we had our communion because you gotta get out of there, otherwise you don't beat the traffic, right? But it was just it felt so long even to sit there for those 45 minutes. And when I learned that some like Protestant services are 90 minutes-ish or more, I was like, How do y'all do this? And then you put a baptism in the middle of it. Oh man, that I could see it being like a cheesecake factory menu. Oh, also, why are we printing out a program for that? Like, do you guys get a program for every different service? I mean, I this is I I don't know anything about this church.

Jenny GK: 34:09

Oh she was just visiting for the baptism.

Caitlin K: 34:11

I was like, Catholics do the same thing like on a 365-day rotation, so we just have the same book and you just keep on going. My church just uses the sky Bibles. What's a sky bible? The projector. Oh. Nice. Okay. Well, I don't know how to follow that, but um, my gem is uh is my son, and the older he gets, the funnier the little lines are that come out. And this one made me laugh out loud for a while. So um in our house, when we have like bathtime, shower time, it's often just like a revolving door, right? Like one of us gets in, then the other one gets in, and it's like you just sometimes we just keep the water running, sometimes we're in there at the same time because we're just trying to get it all done. Right. So um my son is like, hey mom, are you coming back to the bathroom with me? And I was like, No, like I'm doing the dishes, I'm making your lunch, like you you can picture starting with the number seven, right? Uh yes, I have to turn a number seven into a giraffe. I cannot right now go back there. And he's like, Well, I don't like that. And I was like, Okay, well, I I don't I don't want to do the chores, but I do need to get them done because once I sit down, I'm not standing back up and I'm not doing anything. If I sit down, it's over. The shoes are coming off and I am sitting down, right? If I sit, I haven't you been in that situation where like you keep going and going and going because if you stop, you will really stop and nothing else will get done. So that's why I have to do it all. Yeah. So um for me, it's running errands. If I go home, I'm home.

Jenny GK: 36:00

I am not gonna go back.

Caitlin K: 36:01

I'm not going back out. No, I'm not going back out. My husband is so good about that. Like he can go, he can be gone and then come home for 30 minutes in between something and then go back out. And I'm like, nope, I'm not doing it. I'm gonna stay out the house. I'm gonna sit today at that appointment. Yep. Exactly. I'm gonna sit at that appointment. I'm gonna sit there for 30 minutes and I'm gonna doom scroll my phone for 30 minutes, but I'm not going home in between. It's just not gonna happen. But um, he goes, Well, can you please come back here? And I was like, No. And he goes, I'm so lonely in there. I'm a people person. I really need you to come back. I'm not gonna hang out with you in the bathroom. Like, oh, no.

Jenny GK: 36:38

But I'm glad you're a people person.

Caitlin K: 36:40

Thanks for telling me right, exactly. It's adorable that you're a people person. That's amazing.

Jenny GK: 36:43

Okay, so I don't know if you know this, but um, there's some winter holidays coming up, uh, preview for next episode. Um, some of them involved gift exchange. Yes. Maybe for one of these holidays, Sam needs a speaker for the shower. He could listen to people while he showers. He can't. And it wouldn't have to be you.

Caitlin K: 37:08

Well, then if we do that though, it ha I wanted to play music because that kid sings in the shower and it makes my heart so happy. And as there you go, you can.

Jenny GK: 37:16

You could put together a Sam's shower karaoke list.

Caitlin K: 37:19

Yeah, Sam's shower mix.

Jenny GK: 37:21

I love it. Oh my gosh. Speaking of karaoke, I have to tell you this terrible story, and it's amazing. And I'm sorry that it's adding to the episode, but it's so worth it. I'm here for it. Okay. So the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, John took Kit to go visit his dad in Houston. And I stayed home to take care of the dogs and the fish because it was only gonna be one night, and so they went to Thanksgiving with his family. I went to Thanksgiving with my family, and we didn't have to worry about boarding the dogs or getting someone to take care of the fish or whatever.

Caitlin K: 37:50

Sure.

Jenny GK: 37:51

Um, which anyone who has a freshwater fish tank, you do not understand. Saltwater fish are carnivorous, they have to eat twice a day. Someone has to be around to make sure the tank doesn't like explode, it's a thing. Um so anyway, Wednesday night, I went over to my parents' house for dinner, and then I came home and I am by myself for the evening. And I had a glorious time. But I did not clear my YouTube history. So the next day, Thanksgiving day, John comes home after having Thanksgiving dinner in Houston. It's late Thursday night. We are both laying in bed, and he turns on YouTube to pull up a quick video for us to watch as we go to sleep. And he looks at me and says, Jen, what were you watching last night when you were home alone? Were you seriously doing karaoke by yourself at the house?

Caitlin K: 38:52

I was! I was yes, oh, it's a whole vibe. Oh man. I took my karaoke in the car. I don't do it in the house. Oh, yeah. But I love that you do it in the house with the video. You're old up your preferred.

Jenny GK: 39:12

So I am the singer. And uh sang karaoke by myself for like an hour.

Caitlin K: 39:18

Yes. Who was who what was the first song you went to?

Jenny GK: 39:22

I did a couple of Taylor Swift hits. Um I definitely did Lady Gaga and um no karaoke session is complete for me without Turnback Time by Cher.

Caitlin K: 39:35

I love it. So there you go. Mine is a little bit more. If you're looking for self-care, do it. Yeah. A little karaoke by yourself. My go-to karaoke song, Black Velvet by Alanna Miles.

Jenny GK: 39:48

Oh wow, that's a challenging song.

Caitlin K: 39:51

I love that song. It's so fun to sing. Okay, that was that's self-care. We can talk about that later.

Jenny GK: 39:58

Alright. Well when you are posting on the internet, make your choices. Yeah. And uh go be a people person.

Caitlin K: 40:11

Happy holidays.