
How to Be a Grownup: A Humorous Guide for Moms, with CK & GK
Hey there! We’re Caitlin and Jenny (she/her). We host How to Be a Grownup: A Humorous Guide for Moms, with CK & GK, AKA the CK & GK Podcast. Our show is dedicated to any mom who's ever looked around and thought, "I need an adultier-adult than me to handle this."
We're moms just like you, navigating the everyday chaos and unexpected surprises. We bring a relatable and humorous perspective to parenting, drawing on our own experiences and sharing honest, practical advice you can actually use in your own life.
We aim to create a supportive and entertaining space where listeners can learn, laugh, and connect with other adults who are just trying to figure it all out. By offering relatable stories, expert advice, and a healthy dose of humor, we hope to empower listeners to embrace the ups and downs of adulthood with confidence and a positive attitude.
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Caitlin and Jenny are based in Austin, Texas. They're both married to cool people and parents to cool kids. Caitlin is a former middle school teacher and Jenny is a middle school assistant principal. They're besties who love to laugh.
How to Be a Grownup: A Humorous Guide for Moms, with CK & GK
Pack Like Caitlin: 7 Affordable Essentials That Gave Jenny Travel Envy
Jenny spent our entire girls’ trip stealing my travel hacks—from a $11 life-changing wrap to the ADHD-friendly ‘Caboodle’ that organizes my chaos. Here’s the full list of affordable, mom-tested essentials that made her say ‘I need that!’ (and the epic curb-fail that made vendors gasp).
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Who Should Listen
- Moms who overpack but still forget everything.
- ADHD travelers who need systems that actually work.
- Anyone who’s ever been jealous of a friend’s carry-on game.
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What You Get In This Episode
- The $11 wrap that outshines cashmere (and the viral TikTok hack Jenny missed).
- ADHD packing wins: Clear “Caboodle” organizers, AirTag luggage tracking, and the airplane seat-back pocket that’s chef’s kiss.
- Jenny’s steal-worthy list (including the cuticle oil pen you’ll use daily).
- The turtle incident: Caitlin’s slow-mo ice cream spill that became a core memory.
- Pro tip: Why you should always pack blender sounds in your mental vacation kit.
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Bios
Caitlin Kindred: Chronic overpacker, BuzzFeed deal addict, and mom who once survived a 10-day trip with two carry-ons.
Jenny GK: The friend who borrows your lip balm but upgrades your life with $11 Amazon finds.
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Sources & Mentions
- Find items mentioned in this episode on our Favorite Finds page!
P.S. Tag us with your weirdest travel essential—we still swear by portable white noise machines.
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CK & GK
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Hey grownups, caitlin here, flying solo today because I'm taking a much-needed summer breather, because y'all my brain is officially in pool noodle mode. There's a few things going on in my life right now that I'd be happy to share once we're back, but in the meantime, I am re-releasing one of my favorite episodes with Jenny. This is all about travel jealousy, aka the things that she's jealous of that I travel with as my non-negotiable items. So I feel like this is a great time to re-release. It's peak travel season and if you're anything like me, you're probably trying to figure out how you're going to fit another pair of shoes into your tiny carry-on suitcase, like some sort of real-life Tetris game, or you are scrolling Instagram because you're super jelly of all these people taking these amazing vacations. So, either way, this episode is going to be for you, I promise.
Caitlin K:Stay tuned for all the silly things that I love to bring with me, including my favorite airplane pockets, airline pockets things that I love to bring with me, including my favorite airplane pockets, airline pockets. There's a link to it on the website, so go check it out. Anyway, whether you're actually traveling or you're just daydreaming about it, this episode is your pep talk and your packing cheat sheet. We'll be back with fresh chaos as soon as possible. Until then, just pretend that every time you hear that Starbucks blender and you're about to head into work, it's actually a blender making you a nice pina colada, or maybe it's a shaker making you a mojito. Whatever it is, and I hope you get the chance to visit a beach sometime soon. Love, you mean it. Thanks for sticking with us. Let's get to the episode.
Jenny GK:It's Tuesday. Yeah, it is Tuesday time. Welcome to our show. This is CK and GK. We're the podcast for adults who need a grown-up.
Caitlin K:Yeah, today we're talking about grown-up things that I have for travel, that Jenny wants.
Jenny GK:That I want Because, as you know, we took a fabulous vacation together and basically I spent the entire trip just drooling over Caitlin's little travel things.
Caitlin K:Don't worry, I drooled over some things she had too. We'll share that with you, no worries.
Jenny GK:All right, but before we do that, I have to introduce my co-host, and Caitlin is the better jet setter.
Caitlin K:Oh, I like that. Well, she's my elegant tiny bus driver. She drove us all over Napa for it was a couple of days and then finally I was like, listen, I know you don't like this, let me do the driving. And I was like, listen, I know you don't like this, let me do the driving. And I was like, okay, sounds great. And by tiny bus what I mean is we had a Nissan kick. Did you know? That's a thing? I did not know that was a car. Yeah, it was. We didn't know. We did not know it is an actual car. It drove pretty well. But if you are the princess from the Princess and the Pea, you will feel every single rock, stone, pothole, every single thing underneath it. You will feel it.
Jenny GK:And that's not even like the best rental car story that we have. No, the best rental car story we have is that, as we're picking up this Nissan KICK, which again is what they modeled clown cars after nissan kick, which again, um is what they modeled clown cars after um, there this couple walks up to the counter next to us and says this car is no perfecto for me that's really how they said it these I think they were like a scandinavian couple and he walks up and he says to the agent um, I need seat heating and a sunroof.
Jenny GK:There's nothing wrong. No, there's nothing wrong with a car that does both of those fits their luggage, it fits their body, right. The issue is that it doesn't have seat heat or sunroof, right seat, heating.
Caitlin K:and when, when the guy asked them, well, what kind of car do you drive at home? He was like oh, mercedes. He's like well, I can find you a Mercedes, but it's going to cost you this much. He's like oh, no, no, no, that's fine, he goes okay.
Jenny GK:well, the other and he was like no, no, I don't have the card, like what?
Caitlin K:who's using what he's like. Well, you have a four. I can give you two options. You can have like a ford explorer or a jeep like what your choice is.
Jenny GK:If you don't want to get because you're at hertz rental car. This is not like concierge service, guys.
Caitlin K:If you want a mercedes, you need to request it ahead of time and pay for that sort of tier of rental car. And they didn't like it.
Jenny GK:The nissan kick ain't got seat heating or sunroof or bluetooth connections to know, and you know what?
Caitlin K:we were just fine. It had enough room for our luggage. It got us to and fro.
Jenny GK:It's fine, all good it did exactly and it had good gas mileage because, gas there starts with a five.
Caitlin K:Yeah, oh it was a fun. It was a fun trip, but well, we can get more into the details of the trip later, but first we have to talk about all the cool things, apparently, that I have gotten via BuzzFeed articles.
Jenny GK:Okay, so here's the truth. During this trip, I had a running notepad full of things that Caitlin would break out of her backpack and be like hey, I want that too. What is that? Where'd you get that? So I had this whole list of things I just wanted to take from her.
Caitlin K:Yeah.
Jenny GK:I'm going to beat her up and steal her shoes.
Caitlin K:I need to just like start a list on our website of, like, just stuff that we have, that we like, and it's just going to be like a running, like CMS entry list where we just do it, cause I can't keep doing it in all the blog posts. It's just not, I can't keep up. We got too many cool things, okay, so tell, tell us what the first one was.
Jenny GK:Okay. So the first one is this airplane seat back pocket thing that you slide over the tray and it makes your own airplane seat back pocket.
Caitlin K:Right. So when I get on the plane, the first thing I do is wipe down all of the. I know they do this on the plane. I know that the flight attendants will wipe down the surfaces and everything for you, but I can't help it and I wipe down. I get out my little sanitizer wipes, I wipe down the seat that I'm sitting in in the armrest, the tray table, the window thingy that you use to pull up and down, the handle on the shade, um, the seatbelt, and all the other things I can think of, and then I do the same for whoever's sitting by me. So then after that yeah, then after that I take my airplane seat back pocket and I put it over the tray table so, like it, it slides onto the tray table. And then, when you close the tray table, you have like four extra pockets and they're like sized differently, so you can like put your phone in or whatever.
Caitlin K:Yeah, it's really nice.
Jenny GK:When I was in elementary we had to fold paper bags to make book covers for our school textbooks.
Caitlin K:I can probably still do that, by the way. I loved it. Right, I loved doing that. Then they had those stretchy ones that you could buy at the grocery store that didn't protect your book, but they made it look cool.
Jenny GK:That's the kind of thing that this airplane pocket that kind of fabric is made out. It's like it slides right over and then so she's just like putting stuff in pockets and like sorting out her whole life just settling in, and meanwhile I'm like trying to kick my carry-on bag under the seat because I know it's not going to fit in the overhead with everybody's rolling luggage, just kind of sneering at her like why are you so cool?
Caitlin K:it's so well. Why am I so addicted to buzzfeed lists? I can't help it. But this thing is actually really helpful because I also like it just helps me feel like I don't have to go digging through my bag the entire time, because once I shove it under there. I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to have to get back out right, yeah, and for me.
Jenny GK:You know, I shoved it under there and I'm like oh, I want my head right, exactly, oh I forgot that.
Jenny GK:I'm old and I can't read without my readers. I gotta take those out, okay? So also on the plane. Yes, we have a layover in denver and we are sitting there and caitlin pulls out her phone and is scrolling and says, okay, well, my luggage made it here and I'm like, excuse me what? Oh well, you know, I just put an air tag in my luggage, like everyone has for the last five years. Get your life together. I have never seen this done. It's so great. I have heard rumors. Yeah, it's great. She's just like she doesn't have to worry. I'm looking, trying to see if they're throwing it onto the cart or whatever. Which?
Caitlin K:we shouldn't have to do, because our plane is the same one, it's moving yeah.
Jenny GK:Yeah, no, that was dumb.
Caitlin K:No, the air tag in the bag is a relatively new one for me. I've heard tons of people doing it, but it really does provide a little bit of peace of mind. Also, I learned um certain airlines not every airline, but certain airlines will tell you the progress of your bag. So when I, when I flew from SFO to my spring break destination to meet my family um which we'll get into in a little bit, because there's a gem from there that you have to hear my airline was like oh, hey, we checked your bag. Oh hey, it's on the plane. Oh, hey, it made it to your destination. That was really nice. But the air tag piece is like hey, just so you know, it's 15 feet away, it's coming. Yeah, that was really nice. It was nuts yeah, nuts, yeah, and great. Highly recommend, if you haven't already, and it's like 25 bucks, I think, to get an air tag. The peace of mind is totally worth it, okay.
Jenny GK:So then, uh, we get to the house where we're staying and then caitlin unzips this like modern version of the caboodle for her makeup. It's like sleek and beautiful and has multiple layers for you to keep jewelry or makeup in. And you know I got this like bag that I got free when long comb, like you bought two blushes and you got a free bag um, this is my clear.
Caitlin K:I use it for my pharmacy, um, but it was like it's. It does kind of look a little bit like a caboodle. It's like a. There's like a thicker zipper layer on the bottom and then a thinner one on top and it's got some like little straps in there to hold, you know, some sort of item, whatever it might be for you a teeth whitener, a toothbrush, whatever but I like it because it's clear, so I can see everything in it. That part was really nice to be able to have. It's a good. It's a good product I recommend. You know all of these things will be linked. I'm going to build a page. Maybe they won't be, maybe it be, maybe we'll beat this time around, but I'm gonna build a page that has all these things on it, as you can see it, but I do really like this particular item.
Jenny GK:I plan to use it a lot, and so she says she uses this for her pharmacy but like, this is not the pharmacy no, it wasn't the pharmacy. The pharmacy comes later when she pops open this pill box. That is about the size of a deck of playing cards. Yeah, and mine is divided by day, right like you, as it should be, because you're like your grandma had it no, I have that I play mancala with it.
Caitlin K:Yes, drop all the little pills in. Yeah, no, I have that.
Jenny GK:Yeah, for sure but this is in addition to that. She opens it up. It's like a travel soap box and inside are all these little dividers for you to put over the counter medicines in, or vitamins or whatever. It's not divided by day, which is really cool for the other things that you might carry with you.
Caitlin K:Right, Like you know, there's like compartments for there's bigger ones and smaller ones, and it looks like it has like a little guitar pick in there so that you don't jack up your nails as you're opening it up.
Jenny GK:Oh, that's right, that's. The other thing is it has a fancy little tool to open it yeah.
Caitlin K:That's the part I like the most, because I jack up my nails and I've become a nail girly and I don't like it when my nails could get messed up by these things. So, yeah, that part was really cool, but I, I, um, I like it because there's like little labels you can write on them. The one that I really that I just saw, of course, after I purchased this one has like like a little booklet of stickers and it's.
Caitlin K:The stickers are like Tylenol, like like they look like the, the box, like the label yeah they look like the and I was like, oh man, I missed out on that one, but that's okay, this is like it's just fine. I know I should post that one, that's good but I really like the one.
Jenny GK:I'll buy that one, yeah, exactly, and it'll be better than yours. I mean, I will get a lot of use out of it right, yeah, yeah, I'm, it's okay.
Jenny GK:You can have something that's okay, so right, um, you have this tool to open it so you don't break your nails. Okay, here are the other things that she has for her nails. Yeah, a cuticle oil self-contained brush using right now I have. I haven't seen one of these in decades. Yeah, I used to have one of my purse in high school. Yeah, and you know, it's like a click brush, you turn it, oil comes out, you brush your cuticles, yeah, and so she just hands it to me casually, like well, we're on the train in napa, like here, do you want some cuticle oil?
Caitlin K:my hands, oh my god throwback.
Jenny GK:Yeah, my hands and yes I do. And it's so much better than that stuff that it's either in a roller, where it goes everywhere, or in a bottle where you're like trying to hold a bottle and do it yeah, this is just a little pen all in one.
Caitlin K:Yeah, it kind of it looks like, um, like those teeth whiteners that you just brush onto your teeth that's sort of what it looks like, um, and I, I'm obsessed with it.
Caitlin K:It's a really good, uh, bliss kiss is the brand and you find it on your's. A really good. Blisskiss is the brand and you find it on your favorite. A to Z Basically everything I'm telling you guys about here or that Jenny's telling you about. I found all of this stuff on A to Z store, but this one I really like because you can get it in a pack of two and I have one that I keep at my desk and then I have another one that I usually keep in the bathroom.
Caitlin K:But this time it came with us on the trip, Because it was. I mean, especially when you're on vacation, you wash your hands so much and I just didn't do a good job of like my nighttime routine where I like shellac my hands and lotion and then like nail strengthener and then cuticle oil.
Jenny GK:So I was like, listen, this is, it was just the is, it was just no. We regularly went to bed at a single digit time you did. I am a grandma but what I am saying is nobody did any nighttime routine. No, I know the one. It was like head hits pillow. Right, that's my, that's my night time routine.
Caitlin K:The one time I even like washed my face before bed, I still went to bed like close to close to midnight or like maybe a little bit after. Also, can we talk about how we had daylight savings time kick into high gear while we were there, and that was a horrible.
Jenny GK:We had a reservation for the breakfast, for breakfast so yeah, so you have this reservation for brunch and and we're looking to see if we want to add another person to it, and there's plenty of seatings at 11. And I was like man, why Sunday brunch, 11 am? Why are there tables available? This is like cool, but also did we pick a bad restaurant?
Caitlin K:No.
Jenny GK:No, we just failed to remember that it's daylight savings time and nobody wanted to do 11, because that's really tight yeah In Napa whenever it's still like yeah On Sunday morning. Yeah, anyway. Okay, we were the only people in the restaurant. Yeah, for a good hour. Okay, so here is something that I do not have to steal. No, because Caitlin provided me my own pair Blenders brand sunglasses.
Caitlin K:Okay, so we talked about this a while ago. I believe we talked about Coach Prime's glasses. If you have not seen these, these are. They look kind of like Ray-Bans but they're gold across the front and they're very shiny and I had to have a pair. They're very shiny and I had to have a pair, and when I bought them, I saw these pink cat eye rose golds um glasses that were similar, and I was like these are Jenny, like these have to be Jenny. So I got them for Jenny.
Caitlin K:Yeah, so I got them for Jenny and, um, I handed them to her. They were part of her birthday gift. The other part of our gift for each other was we went on this trip and we paid for each other to like go and do fun things together, right, so that was fine. But I was like, no, she has to have like a little something. So I'm a big believer in like you get to open something for your birthday. I think that's it's a fun thing. So these sunnies are so cool, they're so cute and they look so good on her.
Jenny GK:I love them. They're perfect for you. I am loving them too. So what you had to open for your birthday was just the doors, because Caitlin turned 40, but I celebrated like she was turning four and had a yard card.
Caitlin K:It was so great my husband goes there's something weird in the yard and I was like what? And he goes, just go look at it. And I was like I don't believe you. Like I know it's not something weird, I know that like there's something out there and I was fully expecting to see.
Caitlin K:Like the balloon, like the balloon oh yes, yes, yes, yes, they in in Texasxas, or maybe not all over texas, but in austin. You can pay for someone to come and put decorative balloons in the shape of a number outside your house and they're like 10 feet tall. Yeah, they're huge. So I was fully expecting to see like a big 40 balloon statue thing out there, but no, no, it was austin yard cards shout out to austin yard for making this happen, but and to jenny for doing it. But it was like it just said happy birthday, happy 40th birthday, kaylin. I love it. It's gonna. I'll put that picture on the on the blog because it's super cute, it was funny and I loved it I am.
Jenny GK:I am cackling as I'm ordering it, like I'm gonna send her a yard card like she's turning seven.
Caitlin K:You know what's so great about it and I told you this. This is how you know that Jenny knows me. I want everyone to know that it's my birthday, but I don't want to tell anyone that it's my birthday.
Jenny GK:Because then I'm asking for attention.
Caitlin K:So my neighbor is like it was so great. I was like like feeling all special and it was hilarious to me. I loved it. I loved it. So, okay, I have to tell you about the thing that I wanted that Jenny had while we were there the the thing, the thing, okay, the thing.
Jenny GK:I had a running list going of items I wanted to take.
Caitlin K:I had one that she wanted, but here's what oh, I remember the other thing that we forgot on this list and I'll come back to it in a second Um, but the thing I wanted. So Jenny. Jenny dressed herself appropriately for every single event that we had, um, including on day one when we traveled and the first destination that we arrived at, aside from, like you know, the Hertz rental car place, was a champagne tasting.
Jenny GK:I am dressed appropriately for travel, as in tennis shoes, leggings sweatshirt, hair up and dirty, okay, and I did not change for the champagne.
Caitlin K:We didn't need to, but jenny shows up at this beautiful chateau place ready for a champagne tasting and she's wearing like a dress.
Jenny GK:Now everyone who wears dresses understands that part of why you wear dresses is because they're comfortable and it's one reason I was wearing it's just it makes you look easy to wear on the plane exactly it makes you look put together.
Caitlin K:That said, it's still a dress and you look better than someone who's wearing leggings and a sweatshirt and some big old clunky tennies, so whatever. But she also had a wrap that she wore for when it got chilly, because it's Napa and it gets chilly in Napa. Let's be real clear. It was not warm for most of the time we were there. It was beautiful but not warm. But right, right, and I have, like you know, my wind, my Carhartt, like windbreaker for windbreaker, and I have like a nice, I have nice makeup and nice hair and like nice clothes on underneath with my Carhartt windbreaker. Not the best look, but Jenny had this wrap shawl thing that I am obsessed with and I made her give me the link and instead it showed up at my house right after I got back, which was amazing. But I love this thing. You have to explain it because it's so great.
Jenny GK:So, um, a few weeks before the trip, I got caught at a junior league meeting shopping for the trip and it was in the break between we making decisions. I wasn't like not paying attention. But someone looked over and saw I was scrolling through and shopping and said, oh, what are you looking for? And I explained I'm going to Napa and I'm just looking for something that I could put on in the evenings when the temperature drops. And she was oh, you need a fabulous cashmere wrap. And I was like you need a fabulous reality check.
Caitlin K:Because I am not the person who is buying a fabulous cashmere just like a big old pashmina, like, like, nothing wrong with having a pashmina, but like I'm just, I'm a girl on a budget here, right that's it like I, I I'm going on a teacher budget right to to napa. I have to save the cash where I can yes, yes, nissan kick. Hey that thing. I got no complaints.
Jenny GK:I wouldn't buy it, but for rental, oh no it was the perfect rental, perfect for what we were doing. But so I go to China and wwwbuyclothesfromchinacom.
Jenny GK:There it is and uh, I find this wrap that's like super soft. It's not cashmere soft, but it is soft, yeah, and it has a little bit of an unfinished edge so that it has a little bit of fringe on it. It's got this cool buckle where, if you want to wrap it and have it stayed secure, you can buckle it or you can just throw it over your shoulders open.
Caitlin K:And it was 11 and it's beautiful like you can't tell that it's 11 less than the tax right on a fabulous cashmere wrap you can't tell that it's 11. It's beautiful's beautiful, and hers is like a, like a really nice, like brown color and I made her get me a gray one and I love it.
Jenny GK:Love it, love it, love it. Well, when Abby packed for me for this trip, she chose things all in kind of browns and beiges.
Caitlin K:Hmm, a neutral girl, I like it.
Jenny GK:Yes.
Caitlin K:I'm into it.
Jenny GK:She did all my packing.
Caitlin K:Okay, okay, well, hold on.
Jenny GK:Speaking of packing, the one other thing.
Caitlin K:I have to tell you about that. You loved that. You forgot, yeah, so I have these. It's like those little pump bottles but it comes in like a little tube of four. So, instead of those TSA approved bottles that are all single, this is a single bottle that, like you have to fill it up and it takes up all these spaces because you have, you know, six of them. I did love this. Yeah, it is one like cylindrical thing that has a pump on the top. Stop, yes, close your eyes.
Jenny GK:Yes, if you're not driving.
Caitlin K:Oh, not me.
Jenny GK:Imagine the pen that you really loved in fourth grade, where you could click through different colors.
Caitlin K:Yes. And it had red, blue, green, black, and everyone always tried to push all the colors down at the same time, and you tried to push all the colors at one time.
Jenny GK:Yes, it's kind of like that.
Caitlin K:It's that, yeah, you rotate the top and then, when you push down on the pump, the one of the four like products inside will come out, because you and you can label them and you can see how much is in there, and it's like it's. It's really nice. So I was able to fit eight different products into these two like cylinders of things and they each hold less than that. It's like they each hold two ounces or something like that, which for like lotion. That's a lot of lotion. Two ounces of lotion is a lot. It'll get you through a 10 day trip, which is what I ended up doing. So it was good. That was a good product. You liked that one.
Jenny GK:Yeah, okay. So, um things I wanted to steal from you the multi-pump travel liquid containers, yes. The seat back pockets, yes. The sunglasses, which I didn't have to steal because you bought me my own pair.
Caitlin K:Right.
Jenny GK:Thanks, bt Dubs. Yeah, the cuticle oil Air tags for my luggage, which again, welcome to the 20th century, jen, get your life together. And two boxes. And two boxes, one for like makeup and jewelry and the other one for miscellaneous OTC meds.
Caitlin K:Yes.
Jenny GK:And the one thing that you liked I had for $11.
Caitlin K:And you also now. Yes, and I've worn it around the house several times because I just like it.
Jenny GK:It's like a cape Yep Super. All right, let's take a break.
Caitlin K:Okay, we're back. Do you feel like a grown-up? Yet, if those are all, those travel things that make. That made me feel like.
Jenny GK:I would feel more like a grown-up if I owned them oh, we can make that happen. I got you yeah, so I've been obsessed with those, but here's what I'm obsessed with, right now tell me on the last episode, I told you I was obsessed with the eclipse. Yes, and I'm like still there.
Caitlin K:Well, it hasn't happened yet, so of course, yeah it hasn't happened yet.
Jenny GK:I did a bunch of research on how ancient cultures have viewed or explained the eclipse. Yes, okay, so there's like 20 or 30 different myths about the sun being eaten, which totally makes sense, because as the moon moves across it of it looks like a bite yeah but there are some myths out there that are pretty great okay one is in the navajo culture.
Jenny GK:People do not watch the eclipse at all. Interesting. It is representative of the sun dying and the sun is a father figure in their culture. So they go inside and respectfully close their blinds and stay inside until the eclipse is over.
Caitlin K:Wow, last fall monument valley and four corners parks were closed because they're on navajo tribal land.
Jenny GK:Wow, that's very interesting. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was really interesting. Um, and then, surprisingly, there's not a lot of records from the egyptians about eclips, even though we know that the sun, god Ra, was really important in their culture.
Caitlin K:Yeah, I'm shocked by that.
Jenny GK:Right, you would think that there would just be like volumes and volumes and volumes.
Caitlin K:Yeah.
Jenny GK:But there's only a few stories and Egyptologists will tell you that, like maybe those stories weren't even about an eclipse.
Caitlin K:Weird.
Jenny GK:Yeah, and then another one that I really like is a culture from Bolivia thought that when there's an eclipse, the sun cannot warm the earth, so they would light a lot of fires around the pasture to help keep the earth warm during the few minutes when the sun is covered. Oh, my goodness, what which? If the fire is contained, it's a great way to renew the soil. So if this whole thing about eclipse is like new life and renewal and like covering the sun and resetting the universe, how cool is it to think like, oh, they inadvertently were actually clearing the land and bringing to life new things that need fire in order to grow.
Caitlin K:Yeah, that's very interesting. I'm always fascinated by how people all over the world kind of view or explain these natural phenomena. Yeah, it's very interesting to me.
Jenny GK:So I will give you one more eclipse fact. Yes, in 1919 there was a total eclipse of the sun and albert einstein used it to prove his theory of relativity. Interesting in 19, yeah, in 1916, he talked about how space and time could be bent by gravity, but he really didn't have any proof outside of his thought experiments. But in 1919, because the sun was covered up, they could actually look at the sun and look at stars and see how the the light changed oh yeah, I had no idea so on april the 8th, a lot of america is going to be under an eclipse, and there will be scientists out there using every second of totality to conduct scientific experiments.
Caitlin K:That can only happen when the sun is covered wild crazy I'm hoping to find out something cool, but in the meantime, I'm just gonna be chilling outside and watching it as much as I can. It'll be awesome. Yeah, speaking of awesome things, when you and I were in napa, we stayed with your friend. Your friend has his own cave, his own cave, right?
Jenny GK:I want my own cave. This is a cave that it will hold wine like it is like a. It is a wine cave.
Caitlin K:It's a wine storage right, because he has a vineyard right, but it is a hole in the mountain and there's gonna be a space for like intimate get-togethers. And in the meantime I walked through a cave on someone's you know someone who?
Caitlin K:and I want my own cave and I'm obsessed with the idea of having one. I don't think it'll ever it's not really on my bingo card for any time in the future, but um, it was really cool and we walked into a mountain and then there was like space to hold, like wine barrels everywhere, and then we walked around in like a horseshoe sort of style thing, found a place to have a nice get together inside a mountain with rock and stuff all around it, and then walked out of the other side of the mountain right because we were in a cave in the side of not a mountain, a hill, but still still pretty wild.
Jenny GK:That was amazing. Yes, it was crazy. Yeah, like, oh yeah, that that's a mark from the dynamite.
Caitlin K:When they yeah, oh yeah, when they, when they blew this up to make this cave, there's like a big hole there. That's where they put the dynamite.
Jenny GK:Like what amazing this is not like a naturally occurring cave, that no, it was a blast.
Caitlin K:It was a blasted cave, but still very cool, well done okay, so you know what you find in caves rocks, gems, oh rocks. Are we gonna tell everybody how you walked up to a rock while we were on our hike out there and we were like I have to smell this rock I did have to smell a rock.
Jenny GK:I love this. It had moss on it.
Caitlin K:She likes the smell of moss.
Jenny GK:Right, it wasn't moss and when you are in an environment like yes, like the pacific northwest, moss grows on everything, and so Northern California. It's misty, it's cold, moss is growing on the rocks, and so I veer off the trail. I'm like, hey, hang on. I got to smell this rock.
Caitlin K:She literally says to me hold on, I have to smell this rock. And I, not knowing how much she loved the smell of moss, was like I'm sorry what?
Jenny GK:And I look over and her face is like this is a morning, high in a rock. I've not had wine yet. Like, what are you talking about?
Caitlin K:She's literally like huffing this rock and I was like I do not know what's happening right now, but then, but then she turns and goes oh my gosh, I love the smell of moss and I was like, okay, that I understand, Like people love the smell of moss and I was like, okay, that I understand, like people love the smell of like natural things, right, like freshly cut grass or like things like that made total sense to me.
Caitlin K:But hang on, I have to smell this rock. And then, like her full face, I was like I really just stopped. Him was like, um, what she explained but it took me a second. Okay, so tell me your job.
Jenny GK:Okay, so here's my, here's my job. I came from, uh, my five-year-old a few nights ago. He looks at me, says what does ha mean? I'm like, ha ha, like, something's funny, like that's a way to write out a laugh. And he says no, no, like in hello ha I know the hello part, but I don't know the.
Caitlin K:Oh, he's so sweet. I didn't correct him. No, never correct him. Oh, it's so cute hello ha oh what a sweetheart. Nope, nobody ever correct it. That's like at our house yogurt covered raisins are yogurt beans, and I'm telling you now, if someone ever fixes it, I will be so upset. Mom, can I have more beans? Excuse me, yogurt beans?
Jenny GK:oh yeah, okay, no problem, yes, well, let me tell you, um, you do have to fix it at some point, because my sister was in her 20s when she found out that you don't have to be m to live in the state of Utah, because this is something that we let her believe our whole childhood.
Caitlin K:That's amazing Okay.
Jenny GK:No, I'll correct it at some point. At some point, before you release your child into the world, let them know that you do not have to be Mormon to live in Utah. Yogurt covered raisins are not beans and the word is aloha not hello, and the word is aloha, not hello.
Caitlin K:Ha, so cute, okay. Well, now is the time where I embarrass myself.
Jenny GK:Are you ready because you're gonna love this? I saved this story just for you love a good.
Caitlin K:Save the mic story, okay, so after jenny and I went to napa, I met my family in Cabo San Lucas for our spring break. We managed to get um a steal on everything to get down there. It was just a no brainer for us. So we head down there and um a few days in, you know, I've got like as much of a base tan as I can possibly get. And now I want you to understand if you don't know what. I'm right. If you don't know what I look like, um imagine magically delicious.
Caitlin K:Imagine paper and then give it like a slight, like pinkish hue and some red hair and freckles, and that's what I look like. I am so pale, okay, with like a, with like a pink undertone. So I am like slathered in mineral sunscreen to like try and not burn, cause that's just how I am. But, um, I you know I did. Okay, I only got like one burn on my head and we'll talk about that another time. But, um, I am enjoying my time on the beach and I'm enjoying my time at the pool. What we would do is we would get some breakfast, go down to the beach for a few hours, hang out and then, um, head to the pool where we would get all the sand off of ourselves and then go back into our space so that we wouldn't get sand all over the place, and then go back into our space so that we wouldn't get sand all over the place.
Caitlin K:Well, on the way out of the beach there is a little ice cream place and, of course, obviously, if you have a seven-year-old and you're leaving the beach, you have to get ice cream.
Caitlin K:And we've got our ice cream and mine's in a cup, because I'm clumsy. And here's evidence of how clumsy I am, I'm wearing like those pillow puffy, not flip-flops, but like, oh, the cloud slides, cloud slides. Yes, thank you. And Cabo has very slick sidewalks and also the like poles are kind of in the middle of the sidewalk so you have to walk around them and sometimes you are gonna have to step off onto the curb and the curbs are all sloped. Um, they're not like a hard curb, it's like a slide down kind of curb. Well, I'm walking with my ice cream and my slide, I'm walking around a pole on my slide, I slip on the curb oh no, and I go down, but I go down slow-mo and I'm trying to save the ice cream and I just completely eat it and the next thing I know, my ice cream is upside down in the street and my legs are up in the air like a V.
Caitlin K:And I hear I hear out loud from across the street. Some vendors going whoa Saw me eat it at like two in the afternoon.
Jenny GK:You were the best part of their day.
Caitlin K:So then, the next, like the rest of the trip, I couldn't wear the same cover up, because I knew they would know who I was.
Jenny GK:They would recognize you.
Caitlin K:So I was like, oh my God, I've never been more embarrassed and I like scrape off the top bit of my ice cream, whack it onto the ground, pick myself up and just mortifyingly walk and eat the rest of my ice cream. The rest of the trip Sam was like careful, this is a curb, this is a curve, mom, be careful. Bryce is like yeah, you okay there. He knew, like he knew I embarrassed myself enough that he didn't need to like ride that train and like make me more embarrassed. But when enough time has passed, I can guarantee you I will never live this down. It was slow.
Jenny GK:I watched the ice cream roll into the street I watched my leg.
Caitlin K:I look like a turtle, like on their back, like that happened to me once when I was pregnant.
Jenny GK:I fell behind the couch and I got stuck on my back and I'm yelling, I'm turtling, I turtling, I can't get off my shell and, of course, abby and John are laughing at me.
Caitlin K:Really was like a turtle and I had, like all the beach bag stuff I've just got my. I kept my spoon. My spoon didn't go to the street, I held on to that sucker, but the ice cream totally was phased down into the street.
Jenny GK:I just and I just scraped the dirt off of it and the next time that Bryce gives you ice cream he's going to just scrape the top off and serve it to you flat. I know you're not really into the scoop part. It was so embarrassing.
Caitlin K:The worst part truly was the like Vendoris across the street going whoa Like clearly that chick just ate it. Part truly was the like vendendores across the street going whoa like clearly like that chick. And the funniest, like f, it's cabo san lucas at spring break everyone is falling down.
Jenny GK:Everyone like, but I'm the only one, but their ages all start with a two yeah, or one like or what, or one or one.
Caitlin K:I'm days away from my 40th birthday, happily eating my ice cream and I slow-mo, fall and roll around on the curb like a turtle.
Jenny GK:It was the most embarrassing thing I've done in a really long time, but oh man, you need a t-shirt from Cabo that just has a turtle as like the mascot on it.
Caitlin K:I'll ask Kit to pick it up. Yeah, it was so embarrassing, it was so funny. Like I can laugh at it this hard now, but at the time I was just like no, I'm fine, like I'm like my ankle. I didn't roll it. My slide literally slipped down the curb and down like a windmill.
Jenny GK:Only thing that hurts my pride oh man, I was mortified and the top of my ice cream, my ice cream.
Caitlin K:I miss it. It was good ice cream.
Jenny GK:It was like gelato, so good all right, y'all, if you have had an embarrassing fall, that's better than falling down in front of vendors, whoa, or falling yeah or uh, falling up the stairs and spilling your latte and crying over spilt latte. Tweet at us, I want to hear it. X at us. Message us.
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Jenny GK:Okay, so watch where you put your feet.
Caitlin K:make good choices and don't shout whoa at someone when they fall. Just the first thing out of your mouth should be are you okay? And then you're allowed to tackle about it. Goodbye, aloha.