Jenny GK: 0:29

it's the most wonderful day of the week yeah, guys, it's tuesday.

Caitlin K: 0:39

Uh, we're so glad you're here. It's the holiday season, um, which means it's photo season, it's the holiday season yes, it is.

Caitlin K: 0:49

And if you're like me and you just hate what you look like in photos, which is because I don't know what to do with my body parts sometimes my face even looks like I'm like, it's like unhappy housewife smile, where you're like kind of smiling um, these tips are for you. So today, um, we have an article that we're referencing about how to not do weird things with your body in photos, but first, but first she turns this gingerbread house into a gingerbread home.

Caitlin K: 1:24

It's caitlin oh, she's my sneakily talented hawk. That's jenny. Yours are always so sweet in my or like yeah that was tongue-in-cheek. Let's be real.

Jenny GK: 1:38

I mean ew, but thanks um, I didn't say what kind of home, ah, no, um, so I I took a gingerbread like decorating class this week. Um, because, of course, you did it was the first time I had done a gingerbread house sans kids in 13 years and I was so proud of it you didn't use graham crackers on the side of a milk carton to make no no, no, like this.

Jenny GK: 2:10

Oh, it was really cool. Like they had the houses already assembled, you were literally just decorating them. But I, like I was not. I was doing it by myself, I was having so much fun.

Jenny GK: 2:22

Uh, it was half a dozen women just decorating their gingerbread houses, chit-chatting while we're doing it, and I was so proud of it, I brought it home. Abigail sees it the next morning and she was like you made a gingerbread house without me. I was like, yes, yes, I did, but don't worry, kit wasn't there. Nobody was there, it was just me and it was amazing. Oh my gosh.

Caitlin K: 2:45

Your audio is doing that staticky thing again. I have all new equipment.

Jenny GK: 2:51

Is it better now? Yeah, okay, I won't move.

Caitlin K: 2:55

Okay, well, I mean, that sounds like fun, given that, I will destroy your home, apparently.

Jenny GK: 3:04

No, no, just saying. Just saying you warm it right up, I'll eat it. Have you seen the ones where people, like are not happy with their gingerbread house so they put a toy dinosaur on it? No, but that's kind of awesome. I like they're like oh my dinosaur ate my uh gingerbread yeah, I ruined my house.

Caitlin K: 3:22

Smash it up a little bit.

Jenny GK: 3:23

Yeah, that's a good idea I like there was one year that abby did a murder like crime scene house. Uh god, I love that little girl, okay, nope um our gingerbread houses also normally have some kind of koi pond in the backyard with goldfish in it oh, that's a cool idea.

Caitlin K: 3:41

I can get into that.

Jenny GK: 3:43

I'm down, you know I I don't think most people do that, so that's a nice creative uh also in this class I learned that if you turn an ice cream cone upside down and cover in green frosting, it's now a tree yes, that one I had seen before.

Caitlin K: 3:56

That's a good hack. Does anybody actually eat red houses?

Jenny GK: 4:00

oh well, kit asked if he could eat and I said no, it's like no.

Caitlin K: 4:03

This is food that's sat out like no that I also touched every bit of and probably rubbed my nose at some point, and then oh yeah, and I was like cutting candy with scissors.

Jenny GK: 4:14

I don't even know if those scissors are for food ew, yuck.

Caitlin K: 4:22

And now let's go to the topic that we're talking about today?

Jenny GK: 4:24

we're actually here to do something yeah, so um, again.

Caitlin K: 4:27

today I'm telling you to stop doing these three things in photos. My source today is a photographer, former photographer for Pure Wow. Her name is Marissa Wu. The article is called I'm a Photographer and these are the three things you should avoid doing in photos. She actually worked at Popular Photography for a while, also has credits with Southern Living and Martha Stewart, so I was kind of like all right, this girl at least knows what she's talking about.

Jenny GK: 4:52

She knows what she's doing.

Caitlin K: 4:52

Yeah, exactly, okay. So first tip that she. So, on the article, if you look at it um which I'll link it, of course, in the blog post for today you'll see that there's a a what to do picture and what not to do picture. Oh my gosh, love it.

Jenny GK: 5:11

And the not to do. Picture and what not to do picture oh my gosh, love it.

Caitlin K: 5:13

and the not to do picture cracks me up because the description that she's providing is dead on accurate. Okay, so what she says the first thing to do is do not lace your fingers together. Okay, because she had a professor who was like your fingers will look like slugs. And when you see the picture, like, look at my hands right now Right, that is interesting they look like little. And she also says this applies to solo pictures and couples pictures, like the couples pictures, where you're like, oh, it's so sweet, it makes your hands no, it looks, it makes your fingers look gross. And I have very short stubby fingers and I have long nails on them because it I feel like it makes my fingers look less stubby fingers and I have long nails on them because it I feel like it makes my fingers look less stubby. And so the last thing I want in my photos is to have sluggy, stubby fingers.

Jenny GK: 6:01

It just makes me uncomfortable. I I would want to meet the woman who says I want to have stubby, sluggy fingers in my fingers.

Caitlin K: 6:09

I literally put in the notes nobody wants to have their fingers look like slugs, because that's gross. Like who wants that? So here's what you do. Instead, you overlap your fingers like princess hands.

Jenny GK: 6:21

You know, that is actually why Kate Middleton carries a clutch.

Caitlin K: 6:25

Yes, because it means there's nothing in there.

Jenny GK: 6:27

It's not like she has to show her ID somewhere or has car keys. She's holding it, so she has something to do with her hands. She holds it with one hand and then holds her hand with the other.

Caitlin K: 6:38

Exactly so. That's the next tip is, if you're not going to have anything in your hands and you just overlap them, instead you could put something in your hands so that your hands have a task. So you can hold your blazer lapel, because all of us are wearing blazers all the time. Um, you can hold your skirt, like, just hold the side. You can put, rest your hand on the fence that you're standing next to, or, if it's a christmas photo with family or a holiday photo with family, you put your hand on your child's shoulders, something with your hands, hold a beverage, whatever it is, just put something in your hand.

Jenny GK: 7:12

I have also seen um show your accessories. Oh so, like, put your hand on your earring or grab your your bracelet. Um play with your necklace, like do do something with what you're wearing. I like that, um, because it's like natural and not to bring another princess into it, but Meghan Markle always touches her earring Because it makes her turn her face a little bit. So you get a little profile shot. Yes, and it has her hand like daintily touching her neck, so she's always like fiddling with her earring for her pictures.

Caitlin K: 7:46

But it also kind of looks like you might be tucking your hair behind your ear or something. So it's sort of it is a very natural sort of look. It's not just like let me show you my earring, right right, right, yeah, no.

Jenny GK: 7:56

In your mind you're saying show off your accessories In your body. You're actually just touching them somehow, Right? Or featuring them in your movement.

Caitlin K: 8:02

I like that one Okay.

Jenny GK: 8:06

Second tip.

Caitlin K: 8:07

Does this involve slugs? No, no, but it does involve meaty thighs, which I am familiar with Okay. I have those former. I didn't play soccer for so long that like they're super prominent, but I do have, like former soccer player, thigh and calf issues. So my legs are meaty, okay, and I just have meaty thighs. So, um, don't put all of your weight on your front leg.

Jenny GK: 8:31

Okay.

Caitlin K: 8:31

Now, when you pop one leg meaning like you bend one knee and you sort of pop the leg out the goal is to make you have an S sort of curve to your body right. It's supposed to be more flattering. The problem with doing that is that most people put the weight on the wrong leg. Okay, they put the weight on the front leg. Put their, they put the weight on the front leg with the one that's closer to the camera, which just makes it look bigger. So when you do the s thing, the popping thing, you're supposed to put the weight on the back leg, okay, and sort of just like rest your other foot on the ground, if that makes any sense, like yes, it's so.

Jenny GK: 9:12

My friend who is a photographer yes, many years ago I'm talking like more than a decade told me whatever is closest to the camera is biggest. Yes, so, and she was helping me out, um, by saying like, move your head a little further so that you don't have the, so that you don't have the double chin.

Jenny GK: 9:33

Yeah, but that makes sense. If you put all your weight on your front leg like, that front leg is going to look bigger than the rest of your body Right and it already looks bigger than the rest of your body.

Caitlin K: 9:42

So then you're like emphasizing it by popping it into the.

Jenny GK: 9:45

You've lost the angle that you were trying to build Right and instead just turned your leg into an elephant leg.

Caitlin K: 9:52

Right, exactly, it's not an S anymore, it's a it's a tree trunk. Right.

Jenny GK: 9:59

Okay, got it, got it Right.

Caitlin K: 10:01

So. So what do I do instead? Instead, you're going to reverse the weight. You put your weight on the back leg and pop the front leg, cause when you do that, you're going to slim out the front one a little bit more. Um. So when you, the same thing, because when you do that, you're going to slim out the front one a little bit more. Um. So when you, the same thing applies when you cross your legs. And if you're sitting in a picture, um, the leg that is close to the camera should be crossed over the leg that's further away. So you, you want to make sure that whatever weight you're putting in, you put it in the one that's further away from the camera. Just to emphasize one proportionality and two, like S and not tree trunk, right, like that's what we're doing. So shift that weight to the back leg, okay, okay, the last one. This is where I really it's one thing I'm already awkward.

Jenny GK: 10:46

I have an image of tree trunk Like. I can't take that out of my head.

Caitlin K: 10:49

Well, you gave me elephant legs, so that's where my brain is right. Um I this is probably the one that's hardest for me.

Jenny GK: 10:57

Hands I can handle, but arms I can handle yeah, I can, yeah, very very sorry yeah, no, I got you totally arms are where I really struggle coffee where I'm like arms, arms down, arms off, to the like what arms? All right, and you can't. You can't do the teacup anymore because it's like not 2004 except you can, okay, so um, here's, here's my sister calls it the skinny arm I'm going for it.

Caitlin K: 11:26

I don't care. We just talked about how we need to make things look slimmer in the picture.

Jenny GK: 11:30

I'm gonna do a skinny arm, it's fine so okay, tell us how to do it naturally, to where we don't look like we're taking a picture in our college sorority okay.

Caitlin K: 11:38

So uh, she says to the former sorority girl okay, so here's what you don't do, you don't push, oh my gosh, I just looked at the note, at the notes, and you literally used the word teapot.

Jenny GK: 11:50

Yes, I didn't even see that. That's just what I've called it. That is hilarious. Okay, continue on.

Caitlin K: 11:55

So you don't push your arms into your sides, so like arms straight down makes everything look wider.

Caitlin K: 12:03

Right the line that Marissa Wu, the author uses is no matter how pretty someone is, their arm will still look bad According to cultural beauty standards, splayed out and flat like roadkill against their torso. Ew, I was like that is what sold me on this article. Is that line right there? Cause that's so real. To say something like roadkill and have it published on a website, Cause that's exactly what all of us are thinking, right Like we're all like, especially if you're not wearing sleeves.

Jenny GK: 12:36

It's like really not flattering.

Caitlin K: 12:37

Oh, it's not flattering at all. No, you can't have it. So here's what you do. All right, you teapot yourself.

Jenny GK: 12:45

Okay.

Caitlin K: 12:46

And she says the teapot pose may live in Y2K infamy and she's not wrong. But if you have no other ideas, it does work, so you might as well go for it, okay.

Jenny GK: 12:56

Okay.

Caitlin K: 12:59

What that means is you have like you pretend you know I'm a little teapot you have your arms sort of teapotted bent so that your elbow is out and your hand is in towards your waist. Okay, so it looks like you're making a triangle, with your arm up against your body. Okay. She also says you can level it up with what this Pure Wow beauty director named Jenny Jin, whose articles we've also featured on this show, calls the raptor pose. And now, this is not like pretend you're a T-Rex. This is not.

Jenny GK: 13:28

Okay, I kind of want to do that, because that is where my brain went Okay, okay, because that is where my brain went, okay.

Caitlin K: 13:33

But she calls them princesses. Yeah, both of us have sons, of course. We went to Dinosaur, right, well, and we just got off of a Disney cruise. So my brain also went Toy Story, like with the dinosaur creature. Oh, yes, right, like, yeah. So isn't that the voice of the guy from Princess Bride? Isn't that the same dude? Oh, the same dude. Oh yeah, it's got to be right. Okay, it's inconceivable that it wouldn't be right.

Jenny GK: 13:59

yeah, thank you, okay, um so you hold your hands in front of you like you're holding a purse, and then you put your elbows out away. So like right or right, because you're not holding the purse as the length of your arms, you're holding it like at your belt buckle right, which makes your arms bend to give you an angle right and then, and then you unnaturally probably force them outward a little bit. Right.

Caitlin K: 14:14

So it's not. It also straightens out your shoulders a little bit. It does. Look, I'm doing it right now.

Jenny GK: 14:18

I mean, obviously you can't look, this is an audio only format. But as I do that, I can feel my whole, exactly.

Caitlin K: 14:26

Yeah, and the way that I kind of think of it is um, anytime, we're going for like having a, a body and then arms. We're not trying to have like body, arms right, it's like we talk about like cankles. You want to have definition between the two things. So when your arms are smooshed up against your body, it just looks like body with some hands hanging off the side. But if you, you create some space, jenny's looking at me I'm dying.

Jenny GK: 14:53

I'm like imagining a toddler drawing with like hands coming out the side.

Caitlin K: 14:57

Right, it's like knee Body arms, body arms. As I lovingly referred to my butt and thigh to my friend Amanda, it's my bi right, like it's just, it's all one thing and they're supposed to be distinct. So if your arms are not distinct from the rest of your body, it looks ridiculous. So you need to separate. So that's why teapot arms work, because you're creating space and separation between the arm and the rest of your body. You're removing the arms and turning it into a body. I also like the hands on each other's shoulders. Again, that opens you up the arm and the rest of your body.

Jenny GK: 15:31

Yes, you're removing the arms and turning it into. I also like the like hands on each other's shoulders.

Caitlin K: 15:35

Again, that like opens you up so you can put your hands on the people near you I typically demand to be in the middle of of group photos because then I can put my arms behind people right, and I don't have. It opens you up right, but I also don't have to think about what I'm doing with my hands. But that doesn't always work when you have three sisters and one of whom is very insistent on only taking pictures on one side of her body. Actually, I have two of them who do that, so it's very difficult to make that happen.

Jenny GK: 16:03

It's not the different side.

Caitlin K: 16:05

No, it's not, it's the same. No, right, that's what I'm saying.

Jenny GK: 16:07

No no, I also like the move of sticking one hand up in the air. Yes, you do that a lot Like I'm Cher. Yes, but also.

Caitlin K: 16:15

But again, it elongates me. It elongates and it lends itself to that S shape. Right yeah, as long as you're putting your weight on the back leg, it lends itself to that S shape.

Jenny GK: 16:35

But you got to be a special level of look at me Right, right, yeah.

Caitlin K: 16:37

That's what that is what that is. It is a look at me photo. Ok, so the three things we're not going to do we're not going to lace our fingers together, we're not going to put all the weight on our front leg and make it look like a tree trunk, and we're not going to put arms into sides and create arms. Ok, got it All right. Let's take a break For links to resources mentioned in this episode. Head on over to ckandgkpodcastcom slash blog to find everything you need, and be sure to follow us on social media. Head over to your favorite social media network and find us at CK and GK podcast media network and find us at CK and GK podcast.

Jenny GK: 17:15

And now back to the show. All right, so now we're back. Um, let me tell you what I am obsessed with. Yeah, I want to hear it it is the time of year where we are having all of the parties.

Caitlin K: 17:23

Yeah, that's why. I did pick. That's why we did the thing about photos. Right, right, right right, Um, exactly.

Jenny GK: 17:29

So what I'm obsessed with right now?

Caitlin K: 17:34

um, exactly so what I'm obsessed with right now minute to win at games. Oh it's like what I bring to a party now.

Jenny GK: 17:37

Yeah, yeah so, instead of saying like, oh, I'll bring a cheese plate, like something that takes work, I'm like, oh, I'll bring a game, and so my favorite one right now is the only thing you need is a dozen candy canes okay, but you need a dozen per team okay, those are easy, though.

Caitlin K: 17:55

Those like what? Two bucks?

Jenny GK: 17:56

really easy, yeah and they're yeah, right, so one person puts the candy cane in their mouth with the hook out and everyone else spreads the candy canes the 11 remaining on the floor and that person has to hook them and collect them.

Caitlin K: 18:15

The person who the team that gets their 11 picked up fastest wins that's hysterical it's amazing I saw one that was um big marshmallows on a table and you put your kids hands in red solo cups and they have to pick them.

Jenny GK: 18:33

Yeah, those are just that's amazing, those are, so there's tons of them out there. Um, I think we have talked about them on the show before, but to me it's it's like it's the easiest thing to bring to a party. Um, it's also not a 30 minute game that people are like, okay, we're over this, and there's some that are messy, like how fast can you wrap your friend? Um, but it's also fun, right?

Jenny GK: 18:57

And it just costs a roll of wrapping paper and tape. But um, the they're, they're fun and they don't take up much time, they don't cost a lot of money and it gets you off the hook for having to cook.

Caitlin K: 19:10

There's also like something uniquely, also something uniquely bonding about those activities because they're funny. We've talked about this before. Anytime you laugh together, it doesn't need to be a long game, it just needs to be funny.

Jenny GK: 19:23

You do not need any athletic ability to be talented at these games.

Caitlin K: 19:27

I wish that when people are doing professional development games that are meant to be bonding, if you focused on laughing as opposed to sharing, you would bond people a lot faster. I don't get why that's not a thing.

Jenny GK: 19:44

If I have to make one more spaghetti and marshmallow tower, I swear no no, those are awful like no more stem challenges. Just make me laugh, no make me laugh, have me do something completely and totally ridiculous. I loved this game. It was done in about 12 seconds oh yeah the fastest kid was incredible. We were like why are you good at this? Oh, there was another one that I played recently where we took everybody had tiny, like the fun size M&Ms.

Caitlin K: 20:26

Oh yeah.

Jenny GK: 20:27

Okay, okay. And then there are cards in the colors of M&Ms Okay. And so you open your bag when they say go, and you have to sort them onto the colors, and everyone on your team has to get their bag sorted to be done. Oh gosh, but everyone's sorting at the same time. Yeah, okay. So again it happens. In like 20 seconds Everybody's done and people are frantically moving M&M's around the table.

Caitlin K: 20:55

Red that's pretty funny. Yeah, I could see middle schoolers turning this into. Well, we played with middle schoolers and then they ate the m&ms, which I thought was disgusting.

Jenny GK: 21:07

Yeah, I was like you guys. Everyone has touched these at the table.

Caitlin K: 21:10

Yeah, can we wash hands before we do this? A little gross, okay, well okay, sorry, that's my obsession.

Jenny GK: 21:15

What's yours?

Caitlin K: 21:16

okay. Well, speaking of laughing, I don't know how often the muppet christmas carol like appears in your christmas movie lineup, but it needs to be all the time, because I've watched it twice already this season. That's nothing compared to how many times we've already watched Home Alone, which is like 12. But it is hysterical. And one of my favorite things in this world is Muppets acting like regular adults and breaking character and or having bloopers, like unhinged Elmo when he breaks the fourth wall and like cannot handle Zoe talking about Rocco is one of my most like. I will cry laughing every time it's so good. So not only am I obsessed with Muppet Christmas Carol, but I also found an Instagram reel of Muppet Christmas Carol bloopers.

Jenny GK: 22:08

I am all about it. You know I love the Muppets. Yes, I do know you, I love the Muppets. And when we were on this trip we should probably recap we should recap at some point yeah, one of the things that you could do is solve a Muppet mystery, and there was a little girl solving the missing 101 Dalmatian puppy mystery. Oh, that's cute so it uses the same technology but, depending on what mystery you're doing is what the screen plays for you right, yeah, that's cool you sign up.

Jenny GK: 22:38

Okay, I'm doing the muppets, but we were at the same station and she was waiting to do the puppies and we were doing the muppets and she was like what is that? And I looked at her parents in disgust and I was like what do you mean? Your kid doesn't know what the ew judgy wudgy no, no, I didn't, I didn't.

Jenny GK: 22:55

So I'm telling her, like, these are the muppets. They were created by a magical man named jim henson and and I'm like giving her the whole story and I'm like pointing to each of the muppets on the seat and I was like this one is miss piggy. She's the prettiest but she's not the nicest one and she's like daisy duck.

Caitlin K: 23:12

she's a diva, but even sassier it was too funny.

Jenny GK: 23:16

I'm like exploring this whole Muppet world with her while we're waiting for a 30 second video clip to play for the team in front of us and her parents just kind of look at me like who is this crazy Muppet lady and why is she talking to my kids?

Caitlin K: 23:29

First of all, if you're feeling that way about other adults on Disney Cruise talking to your kid, then you need to go somewhere. Second of all, make your kid, then you need to go somewhere. Second of all, make your kid watch the Muppet Christmas Carol.

Jenny GK: 23:37

Oh my gosh, it's so good. It's so good Rizzo, the rat steals the show. Oh yeah, like the lamp of the rat, he's my favorite Muppet, for sure.

Caitlin K: 23:43

Oh yeah, I also. I do love the Swedish chef guy, because he's just so ridiculous.

Caitlin K: 23:58

Anyway. So in this blooper, this one particular one, you know, the, the ghost of christmas present, this massive oh yeah, muppet, who's probably got a person inside of him because he's so big. Oh sure, they're walking the streets of london with michael cain of all people, and at one point he gestures wildly and hits michael cain in the face. It brought tears to my eyes because Michael Caine's like trying not to break character, but he does, like it's so good, and I just, sam, has been anti until this year where I was like no, we are watching this together because it's funny, and I think the cruise sort of helped that a little bit because he knows who they are now. But it just it's making me laugh and it's funny, and I think the cruise sort of helped that a little bit because he knows who they are now. But it's making me laugh and it's bringing joy to my heart. It's such a good Christmas story. And then you add to it, like anytime there's jokes for adults it's just going to make it that much more entertaining.

Jenny GK: 24:49

That's one of the things that's great about the Muppets is that it definitely meets everyone.

Caitlin K: 24:55

Yes.

Jenny GK: 24:59

It meets everyone's needs. It's good for everybody. Yeah, so in muppet news did you hear that they are rebranding the aerosmith rock and roller coaster to be the muppets rock and roller coaster?

Caitlin K: 25:09

I did not know that, but animal should be featured heavily on that just to bridge that, it's gonna be the electric mayhem, the whole band.

Jenny GK: 25:17

Oh yeah, it's gonna be good.

Caitlin K: 25:21

It's gonna be really good now.

Jenny GK: 25:22

The sad part about that is they're closing muppets 3d oh no, and guys, that was like one of the best places to sit in air conditioning in the middle of the day. You have to wait for the show, then the show's 25 minutes long, like it was it was a really good break, yeah so you have to do the frozen sing-along but that's okay I don't mind singing a lot of frozen, so good yeah and um.

Jenny GK: 25:51

The rumor is that while they're closing it, they are trying to find a way to put it somewhere else, because they do know that it's a fan favorite and Pizza Rizzo is closing it's rat pizza.

Caitlin K: 26:04

What does he say in that movie? It's like my mom told me never to eat stinging food. Yeah, like what, like what.

Jenny GK: 26:12

Okay, all right. So, gem of the week, abigail is trying to bake something and, um, all of the measurements are in um, large quantities for like. It's like a legit baker's recipe. Okay, right. So everything is measured in um weight, yes, or volume instead of like item. So, instead of like a cup of flour, you need 300 grams of flour, whatever. Well, we have a food scale, so it's fine. But the eggs are measured 800 milliliters of eggs, oh gosh, it's like I don't even know.

Caitlin K: 26:51

Right, just put the thing on the scale and start counting.

Jenny GK: 26:56

We have to like measure the volume of an egg. Yeah Well, I didn't do that Because that would have been smart. So instead I start Googling how many eggs in 800 milliliters. I'm like someone somewhere got a flag that someone Googled this.

Caitlin K: 27:12

Yeah, and what's the answer? Do you know?

Jenny GK: 27:15

It's between 14 and 17. That's a lot of eggs and it's a lot of eggs, but it's making a mousse okay, but that's a lot of mousse too it's a filling oh, okay understood yeah, she's making a yule log. Nice, I love it yeah, I was like uh, excuse me, what 800 milliliters of? Who is measuring their eggs in milliliters? I am measuring them in each.

Caitlin K: 27:40

Right or dozen.

Jenny GK: 27:41

Do you need?

Caitlin K: 27:42

to go get a carton, like just go get one of those like liquid eggs cartons. Ugh, gross, okay, mine is. Instinctively, when someone puts their finger in my face, I try to bite it. It's just a thing.

Jenny GK: 27:57

It's like if you put your hand over my mouth to make me stop talking, I'm going to lick you.

Caitlin K: 28:00

I'm going to lick it, right. So Sam's thing is to put his finger near my mouth and watch me try to bite it. And he says the other day he says to my father-in-law, cappy, my mom bites, and he, it's his like. His thing is to like, tell people that I bite like a dog, like careful, she bites, right. So he's like that's a good thing for people to know about you. It is, I agree. And then at one point he did stick his finger in my mouth. I did bite it. And then he goes stop it, let go of me. I'm not a bagel. It made me laugh like I, so I instinctively let go. Otherwise I would have held on to that finger. But I was like I don't know, that's your go-to Bagel, like what? That's the thing I bite the most. Apparently I do like bagels, but still they're chewy. He doesn't eat bagels. Where would that come from? I'm not a bagel. Ok, so two things we learned there.

Jenny GK: 29:00

One he thinks I eat them a lot, and two I bite, so don't stick your finger in my face.

Caitlin K: 29:03

Fyi, I think you need a shirt that just says I bite. I probably do. I probably do need that shirt I think that's a good one. Speaking of don't bite people, yeah, yeah, make good choices. Don't don't take your finger in my face, uh, and no slug fingers. Yeah, or we'll bite. Or barbs or no slug fingers, yeah, I don't bite. Slug fingers gross. Okay, bye.