00:00:00 - Jenny GK
It's Tuesday.

00:00:04 - Caitlin Kindred
Welcome back. We're so glad you're here. It's been a little while since you and I have recorded, so this is gonna be good for us, for you and me and for all of our listeners.

00:00:16 - Jenny GK
I know you've missed us.

00:00:18 - Caitlin Kindred
I'm sure you have. I have no doubt in my mind. Today we are revisiting self care in what Jenny calls Friday five. This is a little ritual that Jenny and I do every week, and it's been really good for both of us, and we're looking forward to sharing it with you. And hopefully you can incorporate it into your own little situation that you got going on with your self care routine.

00:00:39 - Jenny GK
Right. And we'll talk a little bit more about it towards the end. But it's a short little routine. And so this episode is also going to be a short little episode. It's a crampsage. All right, well, I'm Jenny, and with me is Caitlin, who looks like a ribeye, but comforts like meatloaf. Oh, that's cute.

00:01:00 - Caitlin Kindred
Thank you.

00:01:01 - Jenny GK
I chose it because it's like grilling season and we had steak last night.

00:01:05 - Caitlin Kindred
Smart.

00:01:05 - Jenny GK
Like, on my mind smart.

00:01:07 - Caitlin Kindred
I like it. Well, you're just a sweetly genius hottie. That's my co host, Jenny, over there. Guys. I know. You really are. Okay.

00:01:17 - Jenny GK
I look so great. I have this, like, slept on hair with lots and lots of dry shampoo in it. It's pretty great.

00:01:26 - Caitlin Kindred
That's called texture.

00:01:28 - Jenny GK
And it works.

00:01:30 - Caitlin Kindred
Yeah, it works.

00:01:31 - Jenny GK
All right, well, should we catch up?

00:01:34 - Caitlin Kindred
We should. Let's do it. Okay.

00:01:36 - Jenny GK
Let's sit on the carpet. Crisscross applesauce. Come join me for story time. Let's have a circle. The first thing I need to tell you is what I'm newly obsessed with.

00:01:46 - Caitlin Kindred
Let's hear it.

00:01:48 - Jenny GK
And unfortunately, I don't know if I'm ever going to be able to recreate this moment in time. We went to HMart. And for those of you who are not familiar with HMart, it is a Korean grocery chain, but it's like a superstore. And as part of the store, they also have, like, a little food court area with lots of different vendors and a stage. And the performer on the stage the day that we went to HMart was a trombone player who was playing Disney hits karaoke style. He had the background recorded playing on a speaker with him, and then he's playing the melody on his trombone.

00:02:39 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, stop it.

00:02:41 - Jenny GK
It was amazing.

00:02:43 - Caitlin Kindred
It was I don't even have words.

00:02:44 - Jenny GK
I was like, why is there not more trombone disney karaoke at HMart?

00:02:53 - Caitlin Kindred
I don't even know what to say. I'm stuttering over my own thoughts.

00:02:57 - Jenny GK
Oh, I sat there for, like, 20 minutes and watched.

00:03:00 - Caitlin Kindred
Yeah, I would just be fascinated. Part of your world. Like, he did it. Oh, no, wait, that's amazing. Yeah. Well, to each their own, right? Great what you do on your own time. As long as it works for you. Speaking of what I did on my own times, my anniversary happens to also be my son's birthday, which, you know, and I believe the way that my husband describes it is my son hijacked our anniversary. It's not ideal, right, to have the two things be on the same day. However, it does make for a really cool story, and I do like that our family feels complete and they all kind of come together in one day, and that's pretty special. I have been vehemently opposed to matching tattoos for my entire life, okay? However, my husband and I decided to go get matching tattoos.

00:03:55 - Jenny GK
I'm super against it, but I did it.

00:03:58 - Caitlin Kindred
But I did it, and I don't know why. I was like, no, this one is okay. I think the reason that I was opposed to is because so many of them are super cheesy. Right? It's like somebody does, like, one half of it's like a best friend necklace when you were 13, right? Like, somebody does the one half of the heart and the other person does the other half, and it's like, those are fine. There's nothing wrong with them. But it just doesn't feel like me or my husband. I mean, you know my husband. It definitely doesn't feel like him.

00:04:23 - Jenny GK
He's not campy at all.

00:04:25 - Caitlin Kindred
Not even the slightest bit. No.

00:04:28 - Jenny GK
Wait, a serious attorney can't be oh, my God, no.

00:04:34 - Caitlin Kindred
So weird, right?

00:04:35 - Jenny GK
Like what?

00:04:36 - Caitlin Kindred
We talked about, like, a finger tattoo because you know how Dak Shepard has the bell on his finger for Kristen bell, and that's who he's married to. Have you heard of that? Cute. That's really cute. It's cute. We talked about something like that. But the finger one on the outside, it's not the most appealing to a lot of people, right? Like, there's that. But also, if you put on the inside, it wears off, like, two weeks. Yeah, my sister has one on the inside, and it wears off, like, immediately. So it's like, okay. No, not so much. So we played around with it, and I have four arm tattoos and so does my husband. So we talked about possibly a forearm tattoo, and then we settled on getting our anniversary and Sam's birthday date done on our forearms. And we did it in Roman numerals. So cool. A couple of weeks ago. This is it now.

00:05:29 - Jenny GK
Nice. She's showing it to the camera. It's very straight.

00:05:33 - Caitlin Kindred
It is very straight. I went to a really good guy, but it says 616 in Roman numerals, and thankfully my husband is smarter than me because I was like, well, I was just going to do a six and then a one and then a six, and he was like, but that's not the same thing as 616. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I felt so dumb. But it got fixed. And then I went to this guy, and he was super nice, and I think he was a little bit, like, opposed to what we were doing in the first place. But then we talked a lot and it was a really good experience. He was, again, super kind and he's going through a lot of things right now, which he opened up about and it was an overall good experience. But I think what I like about this tattoo the most is one, it's way more bold than my other ones that are like my other one very subtle. This one's super bold and it's a matching tattoo. But Bryce and I each got fonts that we liked, so it's the same, right? But neither one of us his font is different from my font and they look really similar because they're Roman numerals and they're going to but we customized it, we made it our own and we put it in a spot like his is on a different arm than mine is. See, it was an overall good experience. I'm glad to have it, but I am definitely obsessed with it. But I have to also tell you that this leads to my Gem of the Week.

00:06:58 - Jenny GK
Are you ready for this?

00:07:00 - Caitlin Kindred
Okay, so when I got this done, bryce and I had different artists, and Bryce's artist had a different healing process than mine did. And mine put on second skin on top of it.

00:07:16 - Jenny GK
Okay, what is that?

00:07:17 - Caitlin Kindred
It's basically what they put on burn victims. It's like a clear plastic sheet and then you just leave it there for three days and he's like, it's going to look gross, I promise. He's like, there's going to be bubbles. It's going to look smudged. It's going to look really nasty underneath it for like three days. But after three days, it'll start to peel and you'll just like, peel it off and it'll look great underneath. And it does, right? Yeah.

00:07:39 - Jenny GK
Oh, no, it looks super great.

00:07:40 - Caitlin Kindred
Bryce's guy didn't have that, so we were healing differently and all that. It's a clear plastic sheet. It's like having Saran Wrap on your skin, but that it doesn't come off in the shower or anything like that. Okay. And if you've had a tattoo before, you know, they wrap it a lot of the times right away, you know what I mean? But this is like the wrap that you just don't take it off. So that night I'm in the shower and I was putting on my in shower body self tanner and I did not think about this, but I smeared it all over my arm, all over the plastic sheet. I did. So I had this self tanner line that was like a rectangle around my arm of like, this is. So then when I peeled a couple of days later, when I peeled off the plastic sheet, there was a total rectangle on my skin where my I felt so stupid. And I was just like, oh, man. I didn't even think about it because you can't even feel it's just there on your skin, and you're just you know what I mean? You don't the second skin at all.

00:08:43 - Jenny GK
They should have, like, cut it into the shape of a playboy bunny or a heart or something.

00:08:49 - Caitlin Kindred
Yes. Reliving my y two k tanning dreams, right? Yeah. So that was me being a winner. That is hilarious.

00:09:02 - Jenny GK
My gem is Abby and I went roller skating.

00:09:06 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, I love skating.

00:09:09 - Jenny GK
It was so great. But I was sweating buckets just, like, everywhere. Sweat, sweat, sweat. I feel it rolling down my back. It's on my face. Like, I'm using my shirt to, like, mop my forehead.

00:09:23 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, my gosh.

00:09:25 - Jenny GK
And John comes to pick us up at the end of the hour, hour and a half that we were skating, and I said, man, it is so hot. He goes, you are so out of shape.

00:09:37 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, ill like, yeah, you're right.

00:09:40 - Jenny GK
I'm totally out of shape. Ill.

00:09:45 - Caitlin Kindred
He loses 500 points.

00:09:47 - Jenny GK
No, it was funny.

00:09:48 - Caitlin Kindred
It was really funny.

00:09:49 - Jenny GK
It was not meant to be derogatory or unkind, but it was like, dude, it's really not that hot in here.

00:09:56 - Caitlin Kindred
You've just been when was the last time he well, fine. When was the last time he went rollers? Do you know?

00:10:01 - Jenny GK
Like, oh, he doesn't skate. He can't do it. And it's so funny because he calls himself the natural athlete. Like, he's always like, oh, put me in any sports situation. I can figure it out. I have great body control, and he is very athletic, but he cannot figure out skating ice or roller. Like, he just can't do it.

00:10:21 - Caitlin Kindred
See, my husband will do that stuff too. My husband is convinced that if you give him, like, two practice sessions, he could probably make it onto the Olympic curling team. Convinced? Like, I'm not even kidding. He's like, no, I'll do it's fine.

00:10:36 - Jenny GK
Sweeping is good practice for that, right?

00:10:40 - Caitlin Kindred
Maybe vacuuming and taking out garbage. He's convinced that he could just do it immediately, and I'm like, okay, but skating? I hadn't skate when the last time I did it was over spring break, like, just with Sam. I took him in March, and I hadn't done it in so long, and it is like riding a bike. It does come back to but it is hard. I didn't remember being it's hard work. I didn't feel like I was that balance challenged when I was a kid. But definitely as I've gotten older, it has become very obvious to me that I'm a lot clumsier than I ever thought I was. And it was hard. I remember being, like, when you're sitting in a chair as a kid or with your students, and they lean back in their chair, and all of a sudden they panic. And I always used to ask the kids, did you see death for a second? And they're like, yeah, I saw death. But that happens when you're on skates, right, where you're like, whoa.

00:11:40 - Jenny GK
At one point, I did that, and Abby said, man, that looks like a new dance move.

00:11:44 - Caitlin Kindred
Perfect. Yes. That's exactly what it is. That is exactly what that is. Oh, my gosh. So you had fun then? You guys had fun roller skating?

00:11:53 - Jenny GK
Yeah, Abby and I have skated together for a very long time since she could walk. Really? I have my own skates, but I just hadn't done it in probably a year.

00:12:04 - Caitlin Kindred
Are they in line or are they the traditional?

00:12:07 - Jenny GK
They're traditional. They're like white boots with pink laces and pink wheels.

00:12:11 - Caitlin Kindred
That's exactly what I would have expected your skates to look like, by the way, if I was picturing them in my head and I knew that's what they were going to be.

00:12:18 - Jenny GK
If you could just think of what a kid would draw if she was drawing roller skates. That's what I have.

00:12:24 - Caitlin Kindred
Right. This is like Barbie movie style skates. Yes. Got it.

00:12:29 - Jenny GK
Okay, so I said that today was a cram sash, and it's a short little episode. I wanted to talk about self care again.

00:12:38 - Caitlin Kindred
Okay.

00:12:38 - Jenny GK
Episode seven in season one was all about self care as like the most misunderstood topic.

00:12:47 - Caitlin Kindred
Right.

00:12:47 - Jenny GK
And we talked about this stereotypical candle at Bath, and you're just going to go get a manipatty. Nobody has time or money for that all the time.

00:12:57 - Caitlin Kindred
Also, real quick, I hate to interrupt you. Episode seven.

00:13:02 - Jenny GK
Seven.

00:13:04 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, my gosh. It was 70 episodes ish ago.

00:13:10 - Jenny GK
Yeah.

00:13:11 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh my gosh. Okay. Just kidding. I'm good. I just I'm having a moment.

00:13:17 - Jenny GK
All right.

00:13:18 - Caitlin Kindred
Right? Yeah.

00:13:20 - Jenny GK
I had to keep scrolling and scrolling.

00:13:22 - Caitlin Kindred
Yeah, scrolling.

00:13:22 - Jenny GK
And I was like, oh my gosh, it's number seven. Yeah.

00:13:25 - Caitlin Kindred
So we talked about how no one has time for that because self care, when people view it as an indulgence, they don't make time for it. But if you turn it into a habit, that's actual self care. It's true self care. You're actually going to take the moments that you need to replenish and rejuvenate yourself in ways that help you. Okay.

00:13:47 - Jenny GK
Right.

00:13:47 - Caitlin Kindred
I'm here with it. I got it.

00:13:49 - Jenny GK
So when you and I taught together, I was just feeling really lonely. My classroom was all the way at the end of the hall, and so even in passing periods, I didn't really have a chance to talk to anyone. And so I said, you know what? One day a week, I am not going to use my lunch to work. I am going to connect with my colleagues. And so I started this faculty Friday lunch, and I set out a weekly funny invite. I made a themed playlist, and all of that preparation, the writing of the email, the curation of the list, all of that stuff was also self care. And then we would have teachers rotate to make sure that the teachers who had lunch duty also got to come. And that, to me, just that community really made for self care. The other thing was, because I had sent out an invite earlier, in the day, there was no going back. Right. It wasn't like, okay, guys, sorry, I really do need to grade these papers. No, all of it can wait. It was the end of the week. I said, I need this. I need this half hour a week to really connect.

00:15:00 - Caitlin Kindred
Yeah.

00:15:01 - Jenny GK
And so this spring, I was kind of feeling the same way. I was a little overwhelmed, and I feel like I just needed to focus on some reasonable self care because not everybody has time for a 45 minutes shower where you can sit on the floor and cry.

00:15:19 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, yeah, those which I've done showers. Yeah, me too. Like, probably within the past month, right? Yeah. Like, it's a thing. Yeah, it's a vibe. It's like sitting in the car finishing a really good song after you've pulled into your driveway. Yes, it's that.

00:15:34 - Jenny GK
Yes.

00:15:35 - Caitlin Kindred
Just sit on the floor and cry in the shower. It feels really good. Promise. I swear I'm not depressed.

00:15:40 - Jenny GK
No. Sometimes you need it, right? So anyhow, I texted you and I said, I need some accountability. So Friday five was bored. This is every Friday at 05:00. I have an alarm to go off on my phone to say, text Caitlin about the Friday five so I don't even have to remember it. My phone tells me, I didn't realize.

00:16:05 - Caitlin Kindred
You had it set up like that. Oh, yeah, well done.

00:16:11 - Jenny GK
And so I think about what I'm going to do for five minutes for myself at 05:00 on Friday. And then I ask Caitlin, what's your Friday five? What are you doing? And I am telling you all, we have had some of the funniest conversations about this. Even just the text thread is a form of self care for me.

00:16:31 - Caitlin Kindred
Oh, yeah.

00:16:32 - Jenny GK
But we have had things like, oh, well, I'm just going to have a little drink. That's a normal Friday 05:00. Like, oh, yeah, I made myself a fancy cocktail. I'm going to enjoy it. A couple of weeks ago, mine was, I'm locking myself in my bedroom for five minutes and no one can come in. Caitlin has texted me, I am eating Pringles right out of the can. And I just imagined her hiding the can and not letting anyone else eat the Pringles.

00:16:56 - Caitlin Kindred
I think I was out in the open. I think I had the can in front of my face like this, and I was just like, taking out fistfuls of Pringles. And I know that I was eating them more than one at a time.

00:17:06 - Jenny GK
Can you eat Pringles one at a time? You have to do that duck bill. That's at least two, right?

00:17:11 - Caitlin Kindred
But it was like the stack was okay. I didn't do the duck bill and I just took a stack and I just shoved that into my whole face. And then I think that at one point, Sam was like, can I have one? And I was like, no, sorry.

00:17:24 - Jenny GK
When I'm done, I won't finish the whole can, but right now this is just me and my Pringles.

00:17:29 - Caitlin Kindred
This is me and my Pringles.

00:17:31 - Jenny GK
And that's it. The whole point of this Friday five is it's five minutes, not about the thing that you do, but about focusing on yourself, calling it self care and being present in the moment.

00:17:45 - Caitlin Kindred
Absolutely.

00:17:46 - Jenny GK
I am telling you, listeners, find an accountability, buddy. Maybe it's your so, maybe it's a friend, maybe it's a family member. But think about what you could do for five minutes a week or a day or maybe an hour if you need it, right?

00:18:08 - Caitlin Kindred
Sometimes you do. Sometimes you need that, for sure. But be present, right.

00:18:14 - Jenny GK
Think about the moment that you're in and enjoy whatever you're doing for that five minutes for yourself.

00:18:21 - Caitlin Kindred
Right? And I think that naming it piece is super important because you probably won't recognize it as your form of self care unless you start to call it that and that's again, that habit forming piece. So make sure that you're saying, like, this is my Friday five, this is my Pringles time, and this is how I'm going to take care of myself today. And then just eat your Pringles huskies and don't share them.

00:18:45 - Jenny GK
Don't share them. You can share them later, right? I'd be impressed if you could eat a whole can of Pringles in five minutes.

00:18:52 - Caitlin Kindred
Not five minutes. I could do it in a day, I'm sure. Oh, I could do it in a day.

00:18:58 - Jenny GK
I could do it in a movie.

00:18:59 - Caitlin Kindred
Let's be yeah. Oh, yeah. They go down so easy. Oh, my gosh, my tongue would be so raw with all the salt, though. Never mind. This is not the point. All I'm saying is remember to incorporate it to be a habit to make it be a thing that you call out. It's not self care if it's an indulgence. Right. It's self care if it's something that you do regularly to take care of yourself.

00:19:24 - Jenny GK
Right. And I truly believe it's a mindset. It doesn't matter what the task is, right?

00:19:32 - Caitlin Kindred
Completely agree.

00:19:34 - Jenny GK
Lock your self in your bedroom. Do what you got to do.

00:19:39 - Caitlin Kindred
It feels good. Feels good.

00:19:42 - Jenny GK
All right, so that's 20 minutes.

00:19:45 - Caitlin Kindred
Make good choices and enjoy those Pringles. They're tasty. Okay, bye.